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Why Microsoft killed the Windows Start button

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie, it seems you will never understand.

    Some people have very simple needs. In fact, they don't need a "computer" at all. They could do everything they want on a phone - emails, bit of browsing, playing Farting Fish and posting a bit of inconsequence on Twitter.

    The only trouble with a phone is it is a bit small. They might be better with a tablet.They only need a few squares to jab at . They don't do anything that involves managing or creating content. Start screen is probably fine for that. Start menu is a bit fiddly on a tiny screen.



    Those who do want to manage and create content have different needs. Start screen is a massive hindrance for that. They need to stay in the workspace - having several windows and programs running. To access something else from there - you could use a combination of taskbar pins, start menu, etc.

    The start menu is not the only way - some people - like pparks use mainly taskbar pins - but they still use the start menu - it is the best, neatest solution.

    It is not just geeks - I have no idea who these people are you are referring to.

    Everybody I know thinks it absurd the start menu has gone.

    same here , every forum I'm member thing the same.

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  2. #32


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    Refuses to understand


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie, it seems you will never understand.
    I think "refuses to understand" would be a more accurate description.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Some people have very simple needs. In fact, they don't need a "computer" at all. They could do everything they want on a phone - emails, bit of browsing, playing Farting Fish and posting a bit of inconsequence on Twitter.

    The only trouble with a phone is it is a bit small. They might be better with a tablet.They only need a few squares to jab at . They don't do anything that involves managing or creating content. Start screen is probably fine for that. Start menu is a bit fiddly on a tiny screen.
    And Microsoft commercialize to the market that W8 Metro you can do open a lot of programs at a time, multi task dock. Having a tablet can do anywhere, everywhere you go.

    I can say that I can move without start menu.
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  4. #34


    Canada
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    Windows 7 Home Premium FR x64


    Microsoft claims it took the controversial decision to remove the Start button from the traditional Windows desktop because people had stopped using it.
    I stopped reading after this. I don't know where the f- they got this statement from but fact is, I still use the Start Menu (and I consider myself a Power User) and everyone I know that are using Windows USE the start menu. FGS

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2
    The real reason is clear - it is to try and force the start screen on users.
    I couldn't agree more!
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  5. #35


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie, it seems you will never understand.

    Some people have very simple needs. In fact, they don't need a "computer" at all. They could do everything they want on a phone - emails, bit of browsing, playing Farting Fish and posting a bit of inconsequence on Twitter.

    The only trouble with a phone is it is a bit small. They might be better with a tablet.They only need a few squares to jab at . They don't do anything that involves managing or creating content. Start screen is probably fine for that. Start menu is a bit fiddly on a tiny screen.



    Those who do want to manage and create content have different needs. Start screen is a massive hindrance for that. They need to stay in the workspace - having several windows and programs running. To access something else from there - you could use a combination of taskbar pins, start menu, etc.

    The start menu is not the only way - some people - like pparks use mainly taskbar pins - but they still use the start menu - it is the best, neatest solution.

    It is not just geeks - I have no idea who these people are you are referring to.

    Everybody I know thinks it absurd the start menu has gone.

    same here , every forum I'm member think the same.
    x 2
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  6. #36


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    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    No... they changed it just to change it at best, and they did it to force Metro on us at worst. Or... they were smoking crack. There is no logical explanation.
    At least if they were on crack it might be somewhat understandable!

    Unquestionably it's purpose is to promote Metro for touchfone/tablet market. And fair enough if they're trying for a bigger share of that market ...

    But don't dress it up for something it's not! ... meaning a better OS for desktop users.

    M$ embarrass themselves with their justifications. Have they adopted the attitude of newspaper producers who aim to sell their product to consumers with a level of understanding of the average IQ of a 12 year old?
    Last edited by poppa bear; 29 Jun 2012 at 10:22.
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  7. #37


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
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    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Me too, I use the Start Menu all the time. Sorry MSFT, you guys ever work for RIM by any chance?
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  8. #38


    sigh I would have hoped they had two versions. But if they don't then windows 8 will not be complete. They are removing the choice to just use the desktop. While I do enjoy the long overdue faster performance, there really isn't anything else that is that much better in my opinion. I actually did try to put the start screen into my flow but it just is annoying. The charms bar pops up when you don't need it and when you do it takes up time. The stuff I could easily get to on the start menu are made that much more annoying to get through using the explorer. If I want to use a program that I haven't pinned since I don't use it often I have to go into the start screen and scroll to it. Even the way how they have designed the scroll bar suggest that it isn't for mouse/keyboard usage(referring to the metro side) the scroll bars look clunky and dated.

    I don't mind getting us to use the start screen I believe it will be fine say maybe on a tablet. But I would not want to do the same things with a mouse. I feel like I actually have to use my mouse more although technically they were supposed to make it just work. I also hate when I go to the corner of the top of the screen while trying to click something and instead the recently opened app pops up instead. When the screen is split into two the hidden menu is still at the furthest left corner even when you split screen is on the right side. I get it for the start screen screen shot but that is just weird for the hidden menu, beside the fact that it's hidden.

    I don't hate windows 8 but I wish they thought more about it and let people choose hybrid, just metro or just desktop. Now they are forcing the hybrid on us and treating the desktop as an app and the hidden menu is just weird.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    A perspective on the Start Orb...


    Why Windows 8 means goodbye Start orb, hello Windows key | ZDNet

    Interesting read on a take on the removal of the Start button from the Taskbar...
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  10. #40


    Tired of articles explaining how i should like this. Bunk.
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