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Hey, Windows 8 doesn't suck

  1. #41


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    xp , 7Pro, 8RP, Android phone, Tablet


    apple stands NO chance to seize that market since they've failed at that time after time. Even then, Windows 7 is still there for use until 2022. For some, that will be fine, for others, Windows 8 will be fine.
    2022 is just fine , I wonder if I will still be on this forum then: I will be 84 years young!!!!

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  2. #42


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That doesn't answer the question - no surprise there.

    If they allowed choice - they would do well., no question of that.

    The deliberate removal of choice is appalling.

    Very dangerous, counterproductive.

    It must be a fascinating time over at Apple HQ. They must be sorely tempted to attack.

    Risky for them - they would need to bring in a laptop range at lower prices. Even with a different branding strategy, there is a danger it could contaminate their premium brand.

    But what an opportunity to seize the desktop os market as well.
    If the retail looks the same as the RP they will tend to lose in the desktop market! The majority of desktop users want an OS they are able to customize in various ways. The move away from providing a newer but still standard desktop option to only see Metro rammed down people's throats will make 8 a hard sell there.

    Here I found the RP to be more buggy then the CP! Loading 7 from the CP boot options never ran into the problems seen lately when loading 7 up from the RP's boot options on the other hand. The changes to be seen in 8 are far more then just a new Start screen/Start orb removal but core elements have seen changes there as well.

    The way MS tossed Metro in everyone's faces however wasn't the best move for introducing a new user inteface while removing what everyone was already accustomed to without any options available. That was poor planning by MS there and has sure to be seeing a great deal of negative feedback!
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  3. #43


    Um last I checked the desktop is still there. How else should they introduce the metro interface. Brochures?
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  4. #44


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    The way they did it with the DP, CP, and now RP builds is a bit questionable without any option to convert to any familiar desktop seeing the Start orb, Programs, and shutdown options button.. Instead it's been a wild search and destroy Sherlock Holmes puzzle for most! ddaaaaaa....

    Instead of introducing it in a fashion where the "non touchscreen user" still has a conventional desktop option available in order to try out the next version MS simply slams Metro in your face! For most that objectionable on first impressions! As someone else here at W8F remarked: "It's the way they implemented it!".

    Having started off with Dos and 3.1 and hoping MS would have smartened up by 8 being a further development along the success track 7 enjoys including the newer MinWin kernel to advance the OS they simply turned it upside down and said: "take it or leave it!" and which will end up seeing most "leave it"!

    While MS is hot and bothered to get into the mobile business they ended up side swiping the desktop users! The other changes as far as core elements are generally something you would be expecting to see and simply have to learn how to get 8 working under certain circumstances. That's simply a new learning curve typically seen with each new version anyways.
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  5. #45


    I'm fairly new here to the forum. In fact, it's my first forum membership, although in the past I've used them and found them to be of great help for problem solutions and education. I'm one of those that know enough about computers to be dangerous. At first I was taken back by a lot negative comments about the start screen UI in 8, noticeably by Pros and greater enthusiasts. I pissed myself with excitement over it for a few weeks thinking "this is cool, different, informative with live tiles, and organizationally helpful. Wow, M$!"

    Then the other day I ran into a problem making a recovery disc. I had Windows explorer open with file properties and advanced properties, IE open with various tabs which included this forum, 8 mail, Notepad to take notes, and a few others. It's rare for me to have more than three items open for I use the machine socially and for small business purposes. I was navigating back and forth regularly using shortcut keys, mostly Alt/Tab or WinKey/Tab in my usual manner. The start screen kept popping up when I closed something out, instead of staying on the desktop where I needed and/or wanted to be. Ugh! It started to get frustrating trying to get things done! I've occasionally performed this kind of task in times past in prior OSs to fix problems. I kept hitting the WinKey to blank out the start screen to get back to where I wanted to be.

    I don't sit behind a machine all day like you pros or greater enthusiasts do. Now I understand what you are saying. For us casual users and wannabes it's great for we only do this kind of thing from time to time. But, if I were a Pro doing this all the time, I'd be pulling my hair out! If M$ doesn't give the option of UI then I can see where they will lose your business with 8, keep using 7, and hopefully they will wise up by 9.

    Windows 8 doesn't suck for the common man or woman, but you had better wise up for the Pro and enthusiasts, M$!
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  6. #46


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    This is the first time I've booted up into Windows 7 since I installed Windows 8 about a month ago. It's actually quit refreshing to have things work the way I'm used to and prefer. My Windows 8 install is starting to go south on me and I'm debating whether to reinstall, try the refresh option or just wait for the next leaked build. Metro is acting up for me so now its even more of a nuisance.
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  7. #47


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I'm fairly new here to the forum. In fact, it's my first forum membership, although in the past I've used them and found them to be of great help for problem solutions and education. I'm one of those that know enough about computers to be dangerous. At first I was taken back by a lot negative comments about the start screen UI in 8, noticeably by Pros and greater enthusiasts. I pissed myself with excitement over it for a few weeks thinking "this is cool, different, informative with live tiles, and organizationally helpful. Wow, M$!"

    Then the other day I ran into a problem making a recovery disc. I had Windows explorer open with file properties and advanced properties, IE open with various tabs which included this forum, 8 mail, Notepad to take notes, and a few others. It's rare for me to have more than three items open for I use the machine socially and for small business purposes. I was navigating back and forth regularly using shortcut keys, mostly Alt/Tab or WinKey/Tab in my usual manner. The start screen kept popping up when I closed something out, instead of staying on the desktop where I needed and/or wanted to be. Ugh! It started to get frustrating trying to get things done! I've occasionally performed this kind of task in times past in prior OSs to fix problems. I kept hitting the WinKey to blank out the start screen to get back to where I wanted to be.

    I don't sit behind a machine all day like you pros or greater enthusiasts do. Now I understand what you are saying. For us casual users and wannabes it's great for we only do this kind of thing from time to time. But, if I were a Pro doing this all the time, I'd be pulling my hair out! If M$ doesn't give the option of UI then I can see where they will lose your business with 8, keep using 7, and hopefully they will wise up by 9.

    Windows 8 doesn't suck for the common man or woman, but you had better wise up for the Pro and enthusiasts, M$!
    Most have opted to use a 3rd party tool like Start Menu 7, Classic Shell, Start 8, and pinning the programs menu on the Start screen to get around the Start screen itself. Others simply pinned everything to the taskbar or as I did here add new tool bars onto the task bar if not some other method to get around the repetitive back and forth trips to the Start screen.

    The power user who multitask simply looks at the Metro as the "Flop gui" while the novice is all thrilled with the "new look". For most however simply finding a way to disable the Metro entirely would be the preferred option in order to stay with 8. And many have simply opted to wait to see what MS will come out with after 8 has come and gone preferring to stay with what they have now!

    Here the CP ran well while it was on despite the Metro and workarounds. The RP stuffed up as well as 7 when setting it up as the dual boot of the two in order to see how that would work out. It didn't! Besides the complaint heard about how 8 sees a full restart before the other OS begins to load the dual boot resulted in first seeing 8 lock up solid and then brought those problems over to 7 forcing a repair for each!

    I still have the RP on VM however for a continued look at the registry to see what else is there for the Start screen besides several tems named "Windows UI" in the "HKey_LocalMachine_Software>microsoft>Windows" branch. Those are mainly for appearance and don't see the "1" = enabled, "0" = disabled function.

    Finding the batch type file used to start explorer.exe will likely reveal the Start screen process to edit out to see that taken care of. It's not incorporated into the explorer.exe file itself as you would expect Windows Explorer to be but is somehow a version of explorer much like the Better Explorer addon you could download last year prior to the DP release.
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  8. #48


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    The more the greed dogs push the cloud, the more that alternatives will present themselves. Not everyone is so gullible.

    And metro on the desktop is the worst abomination ever released by ms.
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  9. #49


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    The more the greed dogs push the cloud, the more that alternatives will present themselves.
    I hope you are right.

    I don't want to sound over dramatic - but the world will be a much worse place unless those viable alternatives appear.
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    Most have opted to use a 3rd party tool like Start Menu 7, Classic Shell, Start 8, and pinning the programs menu on the Start screen to get around the Start screen itself. Others simply pinned everything to the taskbar or as I did here add new tool bars onto the task bar if not some other method to get around the repetitive back and forth trips to the Start screen.

    The power user who multitask simply looks at the Metro as the "Flop gui" while the novice is all thrilled with the "new look". For most however simply finding a way to disable the Metro entirely would be the preferred option in order to stay with 8. And many have simply opted to wait to see what MS will come out with after 8 has come and gone preferring to stay with what they have now!

    Yes, I think that pretty much sums it up.
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