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Did MS just kill the Windows oem market ?

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    Did MS just kill the Windows oem market ?


    the core Windows 8 looks to be a rockin’ OS, but layered with awkward Metro weirdness...

    ...a big middle finger pointed straight at the likes of Acer, Asus, Dell, Lenovo, HP, and all the other nice little companies who’ve — you know — paid Microsoft’s freight all these long years.


    Quite honestly, this is as baffling as New Coke was to Coca Cola consumers worldwide.

    I do wonder whether they can sustain shooting themselves in the foot too many times before we wind up in a self-inflicted post-PC world.


    Okay, let me get this straight. Did Microsoft just kill the Windows tablet OEM market? | ZDNet

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    It does seem like they are deliberately trying to kill the Desktop PC.

    A conspiracy theorist might say that the Corporations and Governments, have got tired of the peasants not following orders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    the core Windows 8 looks to be a rockin’ OS, but layered with awkward Metro weirdness...

    ...a big middle finger pointed straight at the likes of Acer, Asus, Dell, Lenovo, HP, and all the other nice little companies who’ve — you know — paid Microsoft’s freight all these long years.


    Quite honestly, this is as baffling as New Coke was to Coca Cola consumers worldwide.

    I do wonder whether they can sustain shooting themselves in the foot too many times before we wind up in a self-inflicted post-PC world.


    Okay, let me get this straight. Did Microsoft just kill the Windows tablet OEM market? | ZDNet

    I dunno. Consider Intel. They make motherboards. They also make chipsets used by other manufacturers to make motherboards. Most finished Intel-chipset motherboards aren't sold by Intel. Whether this business model could be extended to operating systems and tablets, I can only guess.

    If you recall 3dfx (3D graphics chip maker), they committed unintentional suicide by choosing to make and sell finished products directly, while cutting off all supplies to their former manufacturing partners. I presume that Microsoft will avoid doing anything that dire.
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    Highly doubt it. The Surface is just part of the market, not trying to dominate it.
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    Could it just be that Microsoft is showing the OEM'S that they are willing to bet the farm with Windows 8 powered tablets. It could also be that MS is showing the developers that they are going to stand behind this whole thing as well. Maybe some people were getting nervous about the whole Windows 8 thing, who knows.


    I'm hoping that the OEM'S are going to get behind this thing in a big way, I'd like to see the type of innovation that Asus, Samsung and others can bring to these things. All kinds of hybrids and sizes till the market figures out what it wants. I find this a lot more pleasing than Apples one size fits all approach, this is why Microsoft dominated in the first place.
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    I think those who understand a little about the business world will get it.

    This is very bad news for oem's. It damages their relationship with MS. It forces them to readjust their plans.

    They must have already been concerned win8 was a gamble for everyone - they may now be thinking about scaling back production even more and possible further job losses.

    If there was a viable alternative o/s - they would be moving to it in droves.

    There was a little fanciful suggestion by Mike saying if Jobsy was alive - he would be tempted to take the desktop market away from MS.

    When he posted that whimsy - he didn't know MS was going to do this.


    If anyone was in a position to attack - now is the time. MS have left themselves wide open.

    Probably because they believe there is no competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I think those who understand a little about the business world will get it.

    This is very bad news for oem's. It damages their relationship with MS. It forces them to readjust their plans.

    They must have already been concerned win8 was a gamble for everyone - they may now be thinking about scaling back production even more and possible further job losses.

    If there was a viable alternative o/s - they would be moving to it in droves.

    There was a little fanciful suggestion by Mike saying if Jobsy was alive - he would be tempted to take the desktop market away from MS.

    When he posted that whimsy - he didn't know MS was going to do this.


    If anyone was in a position to attack - now is the time. MS have left themselves wide open.

    Probably because they believe there is no competition.
    I really think you're on the wrong track SIW2, I don't think MS is trying to upset the OEM's, I think they're trying to show them the way.
    You said they believe there is no competition, well I think Steve Balmer wakes up everyday watching the world close in around him. They know they're in trouble, and Windows 8 is the way out of it, I think the OEM's were nervous, and this is showing them they'll put their money where their mouth is.
    Why would Microsoft do anything now to upset the OEM's when some of them have already shown off their Windows 8 offerings, I might be totally off track but I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    It does seem like they are deliberately trying to kill the Desktop PC.
    It's not MS killing the desktop PC, it's the consumers who are buying tablets left and right that are killing the desktop PC. These companies don't dictate what we have, it's the consumers who make the decision to either buy or NOT buy their product. I read an article recently on the new Mac Book with retina display and that thing is so locked down and practically unrepairable...but it's what the consumers want. They voted for that slim and locked down approach when they bought more and more Mac Book Air's than they did Mac Book Pro's. People are more attracted to shiny, cool, and slim then they are functionality, and longevity of life.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I'm hoping that the OEM'S are going to get behind this thing in a big way, I'd like to see the type of innovation that Asus, Samsung and others can bring to these things. All kinds of hybrids and sizes till the market figures out what it wants. I find this a lot more pleasing than Apples one size fits all approach, this is why Microsoft dominated in the first place.
    But I don't necessarily want what we have in the Android space either. We have so many tablets and so many sizes, and some apps which work on tablets 1,2 and 3, but not on tablets 4,5,6. Some tablets that work with OS release 1, but only on the Samsung and Acer hardware, but not yet on the Asus hardware. This I believe is really where Apple has made a killing is that everything is consistent and everybody has the same things and expectations are the same. Apps can be developed more easily because they know EXACTLY what everybody has. No decisions have to be made or compromises because somebody has system 1 and somebody else has system 2.
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    You are imagining things that were not in my post.

    MS are not trying to upset the oem's.

    It is an unfortunate consequence of making their own hardware.

    There is no other viable o/s for the oem's to ship at the moment - they have to use Windows. There is no competing product they can use.

    Therefore MS went ahead - even tho. it would upset the oem's - because the oem's have nowhere else to go.
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    The Surface (or Surfi, since there’s more than one of them)...
    Okay, let me get this straight. Did Microsoft just kill the Windows tablet OEM market? | ZDNet

    "Surfi"? Really? Do you think he was making a joke?
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