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    Windows 8: Give Microsoft credit for betting the farm


    And that's just what they are going to be doing!

    Windows 8: Give Microsoft credit for betting the farm


    By Larry Dignan
    June 8, 2012, 10:20am PDT


    Summary: Microsoft is trying to make its customers think different with its Metro UI on Windows 8. Even if customers don’t come along, Microsoft has shown a willingness to bet its cash cow.


    Microsoft’s Windows 8 and its Metro UI has sparked extreme reactions and there appears to be little middle ground. Windows 8 will either be a hit or the next Vista. But let’s give Microsoft credit for making one gutsy bet.




    In short, Microsoft is looking to unify its phone, desktop and tablet interfaces. That move alone is pretty ballsy. Even more ballsy is that Microsoft is upending years of user habits and offering a UI that reshapes the software vendor’s approach to computing. Microsoft is trying to make its customers think different.

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    Ballsy maybe but none to bright to be sure.
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    On the Start screen once the RP went I simply right clicked to uninstall a lot of the prepackage garbage to make room for the real apps I was trying out! Once I get back in there again the Start screen will look quite a bit different as I also look for a change in appearance as far as background not simply a limited color selection.

    I think for most the difference in thinking will tend to trend away from rather then to this "new MS approach". "Forget about point and click entirely! We will give you touchscreen only type OSs from now on!" as the once giant monopoly falters into Chapter 11?

    You know that will never happen while 8 is focused primarily on the portable market while still able to be run on a desktop. The main point emphasized there however was there being little if any middle ground between like or not like as far as what 8 is bringing. When you take it out for a test drive instead of ending up with a luxury ride like a Jaguar or Lamborghini you suddenly realize you are in a Honda Civic!

    "Excuse me Mr. MS, you wouldn't happen to have something else(as far as OS) I can try out would you?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    In short, Microsoft is looking to unify its phone, desktop and tablet interfaces. That move alone is pretty ballsy. Even more ballsy is that Microsoft is upending years of user habits and offering a UI that reshapes the software vendor’s approach to computing. Microsoft is trying to make its customers think different.
    They may well be looking to unify everything but it would have been better for MS to simply say Win8 (or Metro) is for tablets/phones and leave Win7 as it is for desktops/laptops. If folks chose to install Win8 on their desktop/laptop then that would be their decision but as it stands, MS is trying to convince everyone that Win8 is the way to go. Many media reports are pretty negative about the Metro UI on a desktop/laptop which was not the case at the same stage pre Win7 launch.

    Sure, desktop/laptop sales may be down but it's the total user base you need to consider and that's an area that MS are treating with contempt imo. By all means push Win8 into the desktop/laptop market but give users the choice of Metro or Classic UI at installation but I suppose that would defeat the object of pushing paid for downloaded apps and monthly subscription cloud computing.

    Historically, all empires fail eventually and who knows, MS could just be one of them. I hope not as I'm fed up with hearing about overpriced Apple this and Apple that. One day though Apple will cease to be a fashion accessory.
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    Here's the thing. Microsoft isn't listening to what consumers want. They are assuming we want Metro everywhere when in reality, we don't and never will. The reason why Vista was a flop when it was released was because Microsoft didn't LISTEN to their CUSTOMERS. I like Vista now, after 2 service packs. I'm not a Vista hater at all because I'm typing this on a Vista laptop. Anyway, I hope Microsoft learns to listen to customers more, or else they are going to fail.
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    Thing is, you don't go 'all in' holding a pair of twos....
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    They do need credit for that. They even said a LONG time ago that Windows 8 will be their most riskiest bet ever.

    The story sounds a lot like that of the Windows Phone, the design team of it decided that either option of keeping Windows Mobile 6 and building off that is just as risky as rebuilding it into Windows Phone 7 since they don't have a lot to lose. They chose the latter and look what happened from that decision, a revolution in Microsoft.
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    Technically the metro stuff on the tablet side is risky but overall windows 8 is the same as all the other versions of windows. Save for them removing easier navigation for desktop users and combining the tablet/mobile with the desktop environment. They didn't really redesign the desktop from the ground up and start from scratch THAT would have been risky and them taking a risk. But I do give them credit for using metro because the IDEA in itself is very good to use. Graphic design is all around us along with being how things are communicated and using that as the foundation is a good idea. Unifying all the components should have been done and would have to be done anyway. They can't have metro phones some other tablet and another desktop they need something to tie in all the different products into one and in this case it would be metro. Their execution is another thing. The earlier concepts and the zune and media center showed much better use of their philosophy. This direction they are going in is been their problem. Credit I can give them for trying something different(kind of anyway).

    At the core metro is full of icons called tiles and take up more space. It's the idea that I think they did a good job laying out for their design but their execution has been less promising which each new update. The product in itself is much better no doubt about it. I would prefer the performance of 8 over 7 but what else will make this product sell? The tablet has good idea but the tiles are messy when you have too many apps. For me that probably will not be an issue as I won't use tablet for anything beyond simple web surf and email. But for others that might be an issue. The hybrid thing can work if that's what you want but I don't know how vulnerable windows 8 is to viruses. That would be one of the problems of mixing the desktop and tablet side of things. In a way I can appreciate the panning of the tiles but I can see how that would be annoying if I really wanted to look for something without searching I would not appreciate having to scroll so much especially when I think about the grid system and how they could just lock everything into a grid where we could see a certain amount of icons and without cut off.

    I will give them credit for trying to be different. Hopefully they have better things in store. The product is not horrible. Their issue mainly lies in their design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    And that's just what they are going to be doing!

    Windows 8: Give Microsoft credit for betting the farm


    By Larry Dignan
    June 8, 2012, 10:20am PDT


    Summary: Microsoft is trying to make its customers think different with its Metro UI on Windows 8. Even if customers don’t come along, Microsoft has shown a willingness to bet its cash cow.


    Microsoft’s Windows 8 and its Metro UI has sparked extreme reactions and there appears to be little middle ground. Windows 8 will either be a hit or the next Vista. But let’s give Microsoft credit for making one gutsy bet.




    In short, Microsoft is looking to unify its phone, desktop and tablet interfaces. That move alone is pretty ballsy. Even more ballsy is that Microsoft is upending years of user habits and offering a UI that reshapes the software vendor’s approach to computing. Microsoft is trying to make its customers think different.

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    C'mon guys -- can't you people ever get real instead of just quoting a load of Horse sh***e from people who don't really use computers in their daily work.


    Anybody in SERIOUS I.T work need to open many windows CONCURRENTLY -- for example translating documents / comparing spread sheets or websites etc etc.

    We can't operate running apps in full screen mode only.

    SERIOUS desktop / laptop users need a different system to mobile phone / tablet users.

    Anybody who thinks otherwise is really living in "Cloud Cuckoo Land".

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    I think he may be right about one thing.

    I suspect MS are going to have to put an enormous investment behind this thing to have any chance of reasonable sales figures.

    It isn't going to sell itself, that's for sure.
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