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Final thoughts on Windows 8: A design disaster

  1. #51


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    The regular LMint is otherwise just like any other distro seeing a new flavor every so many months.
    You don't have to update.
    I still have my Linux Mint 11 VM.

    I still use Ubuntu 10.04 (actual install and VM) since it seems to be the last good release.

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  2. #52


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    LM 13 is out now as well as another release of the Linux Mint Debian which only sees an update kernel and a few expected OS fixes no other changes except may be a few additional backgrounds to choose from. Other then that it's a one time build never seeing a new version coming out.

    The programs you choose to install automatically or manually are what will see changes there. But that'/s a different type of release entirely from any other distro since it's a cross mix of LM with Debian.

    Now something else was found out as far as 8 is concerned here lately! You won't have to worry about not arriving at the desktop but only the Start screen if you set up a "local account" once you get through the initiial install and logging in for the first time signing in with Windows Live usually.

    The Live login obviously needs the lock screen and user name, password while the local account with no password assigned by passes the new lock screen and only sees the Start screen for so many seconds while W8 finishes up the initial startup. I think MS did this intentionally so people wouldn't be clicking on things before the OS finishes loading! and wonder why things aren't working.

    Want to arrive much faster at the desktop simply create the local account! So far after the refresh seen here with getting everything on again each restart arrived at the desktop after about 10-15 seconds.
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  3. #53


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    I don't follow


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    LM 13 is out now...
    I installed LM13 (MATE) in a VM last week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Want to arrive much faster at the desktop simply create the local account! So far after the refresh seen here with getting everything on again each restart arrived at the desktop after about 10-15 seconds.
    I don't follow.
    I've always used the "local login" option, but it always takes me to the Metro screen.
    I haven't got around to putting "desktop" in the startup folder, though.
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  4. #54


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by sjengie View Post
    After 30 years of fanatic windows user i have already decided to switch to a complete new Apple system (mac mini, time capsule, ipads and iphone) as soon as i have the coins together this summer.

    I have been using the W8 previews (on a Acer Iconia W500 tablet w/o keyboard) and as a consumer I get more and more annoyed that things just do not work / integrate nicely. I do like the MUI (both with and without keyboard) but wish i could switch off the old desktop initerface. But we cant do without because then i can not enjoy my media files stored on my Synology server. MUI cant find them (and the Truelink+ app is not a good alterative). The old Media player can. Toooo Confusing ......

    Yes, things will work with updates etc in the future but with Apple such things just work out of the box (i have seen it), let along the fun of airplay.


    Sorry guys ....... but for consumers Windows is not the first choice (anymore) if you ask me
    While I agree that Mac actually may be more Windows like than WIndows 8 is... It wont be for long. Apple is turning OSX more and more into iOS and will have all the same tablet based GUI lunacy that Win8 has in the next rev or two. People are already complaining about the iOSification of the last release.

    We're all doomed together...
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  5. #55


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    "7 Lives on Forever!" will likely be the new concept for Windows users! The rivalry between MS and the others in order to grab mobile market shares is seeing a detrimental side effect for desktop users! There's no doubt about where that trend will take things.
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  6. #56


    Posts : 454
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    While I agree that Mac actually may be more Windows like than WIndows 8 is... It wont be for long. Apple is turning OSX more and more into iOS and will have all the same tablet based GUI lunacy that Win8 has in the next rev or two. People are already complaining about the iOSification of the last release.

    We're all doomed together...
    Tim Cook has repeatedly and recently dismissed Microsoft's attempt at homogenizing mobile and desktop in Windows HE. Of course this is not binding in any way, but given its past and current ever-growing success, Apple doesn't seem likely to desperately crapify any of its products any time soon.
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  7. #57


    Palm Coast FLorida
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    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    The geeks shall inherit the Earth....
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  8. #58


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    It looks like they will soon be in control of the market at least for the time being! That won't too good for the Windows desktop users however. It seems like the desktop concept of an OS got "8(ate) up" along the way when someone thought up ideas for the next Windows version.
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  9. #59


    I do not agree. Running under Windows 8RP I would say it is a design triumph, and for me to say that it is not coming easy. I would be one of the last persons to give Microsoft any praise. If it was not for some Apps that I have that cannot run under WINE I would be running Linux long ago.


    Running on a desktop machine I just love the Metro it is clean end snazzy and no problem to use a mouse. Thank goodness that Start menu has gone it was horrible and once a few things were loaded you could not find anything. Now I can go to All Apps and everything is so cleanly laid out.


    Installation is a breeze and pretty fast compared to Windows 7. Also I did not have to load any additional MOBO or video drivers Windows 8 handled that very well.


    My only problem I had was the WiFi card but I replaced it with one that works.


    Yes I can see that Microsoft will regain their position in the market.
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  10. #60


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I am glad you enjoy it.

    I don't know what you mean by this - what market ?

    Yes I can see that Microsoft will regain their position in the market.
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