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Windows 8 "Release Preview" Released

  1. #191


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    For those of you running Win 8 in VirtualBox you might try this first before installing the VDDM driver:
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    I've already posted this in the VM section but here you have the screenshot again.

    Without this personalisation you get all sorts of distortions across screen (note: these distortions are worse in CP than in RP but it's still safer to tweak the visual setings).

    BTW. aero transparency in a VM is overkill.

    VMware Player installations work ok.
    Just the experimental VBox driver poses problems.
    Win 8 as a host works flawlessly here.

    Thanks
    Hopachi

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  2. #192


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Just the experimental VBox driver poses problems
    You can say that again. It's a mess.
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  3. #193


    Watford
    Posts : 465
    Windows 7 x64 SP1 Home Premium/Win 8.1 in VBox


    The annoying thing is you can't untick the box in W8. Experimental should mean optional.
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  4. #194


    Posts : 738
    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by MrNeeds View Post
    got it installed despite the CPU error, seems that only the fresh install approach seems to work when you have this error, so recovered my boot info via EasyBCD and created a new partition on a spare drive and installed it on that, works flawlessly.
    I just ended having to use the Refresh PC option to perform an almost repair install except it removes all programs and drivers on the initial clean install. That automatically picked up on the 7 install seen on the host drive now set as second in the boot order to run the dual boot from the 8 drive.

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    Grabbed that one with a cell camera rather quickly to show people how the 8 boot screen looks like. I went into the msconfig>boot tab there to see 7 set as default again. Later I make a few adjustments with EacyBCD since that had removed in the refresh along with everything else.

    So much for repairs like that! I might as well have performed a clean install since everything had to be reinstalled from scratch once again!
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  5. #195


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    I'm not even running the latest Catalyst on 7 let alone on 8! The older Cat. 10.4 still works well for the MSI Radeon HD 5750 1gb card in use here.

    You might want to try stepping one or two Cat. versions there as well just in case the latest is simply "buggy"? I just helped someone else lately with a buggy update for his NVidia driven card on 7 where blue screens were reported showing sometimes the latest isn't what will always work.
    I tried going backward till I got the closest version that match. It is Catalyst 11.2.

    Run pretty good with no issue.
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  6. #196


    Posts : 738
    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    That's great! Glad to see that worked out for you!

    Often I was finding that you often had to do the "shuffle" with the different versions even before ATI was bought out by AMD in order to find the one that would work the best.

    For the RP install I simply right clicked on the card while in the Device Manager to update the driver set from the old 10.4 Cat I initially put on to get things smoothed out for the card here. I mainly use the old 10.4 to allow some older stuff to run on 7 due to being too hard coded for the newer.

    On 8 the lack of being to toss DX 9 along with 11 will see the elimination of far more older game titles far newer then the few I still run on 7! As long I run the 10.4 and nothing newer so far one old title will run without DX 9 since Direct X 7 was an option seen with the installer there. The ATI/AMD updated Cat.s then became the problem.
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  7. #197


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    On 8 the lack of being to toss DX 9 along with 11 will see the elimination of far more older game titles far newer then the few I still run on 7! As long I run the 10.4 and nothing newer so far one old title will run without DX 9 since Direct X 7 was an option seen with the installer there. The ATI/AMD updated Cat.s then became the problem.
    No need to worry on this one:
    I didn't installed directx 9 yet and some oldies work without problems.

    There are games made back in 97 like Dune 2000 and Starcraft I and work prefectly Win8. They require directx 5.
    I don't know if some of you know Dune 2000 but it works like back in 98 again (with 98 compatibility of course) and on Win 7 that's not the case:
    It's an RTS game like Red Alert 1 and it seems there is some sort of directx effect they used to shake the screen when someone's building(s) get destroyed. Well that effect doesn't work on XP (only on some VM's) nor in Vista nor in Win7 it's confirmed. But surprisingly it works on Win8.

    The Compatibility Mode in Win8 is improved, I can say that without doubts.
    Running Dune 2000 on Win7 without compatibility mode works (runs the same with 98 comaptibility).
    On Win 8 you got to set Win98 compatibility for it to work (but then runs like in 98).

    You got Moto Racer (97 again) that needs 16bit screen resolution: right click on the main exe -> 16bit compatibility (exists only on Win8 interface) and compatibility mode: Win98, and yes it works better than in Win7 (runs I think too fast on newer CPU' so watch out)

    Then you also have Age Of Empires II: you can see what I mean here Windows 8 with age of empires?
    This on is newer than Dune 2000 or Starcraft but it didn' t run well enough in Win7: you had those bad colors all over the screen.
    And you know what I'm gonna say now: that it works on Win8: BUT wait until you get on the gameplay windows because the menu's still don't look that good.

    There may be other classic releases that might also work. But after those tests with some om my classics I think Win8 does a very good job, beating Win7 on this kind of test.

    All looks good.
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  8. #198


    Philippines
    Posts : 93
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit


    can i upgrade CP to RP?
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  9. #199


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SeoHyun View Post
    can i upgrade CP to RP?
    I think you can, but i've never tried that.
    Mount the iso or burn to disc and run setup.exe: it will tell you if upgrade is possible or not.

    Anyone else?

    Regards
    Hopachi
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  10. #200


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    If you have only CP on the system, you can do it. If you also have Windows7 on the system, you risk upgrading that.
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