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  1. #171


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    W7 has been doing everything i need since it was first in beta finding the 32bit 7 would run things the 32bit Vista wouldn't! The backward compatibility saw a major improvement.

    With 8 however many things are seeing a reverse trend in that area. While MS stressed OEMs to have device drivers and updated versions of things ready for 7 not too much besides Metro apps has been seen for 8! I think the software companies already realize that 8 is likely to flop "Big Time"! and are in no hurry to rush new stuff out.

    What MS has done with 8 is rather then follow a successful trend 7 enjoyed has now figuratively abandoned the all too familiar desktop OS for something else. Despite whateven security and other improvements 8 would bring in most are not too happy after a first look at it!

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  2. #172


    Bahrain
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    Triple Boot: Windows Xp, Windows 7 and Windows Release Preview, Virtual Machine ( Windows 8 )


    finally done installing it..
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  3. #173


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Takes long enough doesn't it?! For a normal install by way of dvd on a 22x dvd drive or by USB Install Key(8gb flash drive) it seems to take as long as Vista or XP while the average for 7 was about 20min.! With the CP and now the RP they both took about 20min. just to load up to the Install Now screen!
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  4. #174


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I think the slow installation is a problem of the DVD reader. I found it to be faster when I installed directly from the .iso in Virtual Box.
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  5. #175


    Tropical Island Pair a Dice
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    From the ISO on a memory stick mine installed in 15 minutes.
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  6. #176


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Takes long enough doesn't it?! For a normal install by way of dvd on a 22x dvd drive or by USB Install Key(8gb flash drive) it seems to take as long as Vista or XP while the average for 7 was about 20min.! With the CP and now the RP they both took about 20min. just to load up to the Install Now screen!
    Interesting but it sounds like a hardware compatibility issue to me. I installed it on my Laptop, Desktop and Tablet and they all installed in about 12 minutes or less to the setup user screen.

    However, I just noticed that I was installing it all natively and unless I misunderstand, you were installing it in a virtual machine, right?
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  7. #177


    New Mexico, USA
    Posts : 12
    Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 Consumer Preview


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    W7 has been doing everything i need since it was first in beta finding the 32bit 7 would run things the 32bit Vista wouldn't! The backward compatibility saw a major improvement.

    With 8 however many things are seeing a reverse trend in that area. While MS stressed OEMs to have device drivers and updated versions of things ready for 7 not too much besides Metro apps has been seen for 8! I think the software companies already realize that 8 is likely to flop "Big Time"! and are in no hurry to rush new stuff out.

    What MS has done with 8 is rather then follow a successful trend 7 enjoyed has now figuratively abandoned the all too familiar desktop OS for something else. Despite whateven security and other improvements 8 would bring in most are not too happy after a first look at it!
    I could not have said that any better myself.....I will not be running Win8 on my dell laptop.....not compatible with p4-m processor/bios....no install (fail.....it ran Win7 perfectly......what we appear to have here is a Microsoft attempt to add locked boot loaders to our personal hardware just like in the mobile market. there is no level of hell too deep for companies that think they own our devices or data and who think they should be able to dictate terms and conditions....we Americans deserve to suffer trough this kind of hell as we have consistently given companies a pass on poor customer relations and lousy hardware......no excuses are really necessary for companies with a just accept it attitude because you owe us your business.
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  8. #178


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by bobtran View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    W7 has been doing everything i need since it was first in beta finding the 32bit 7 would run things the 32bit Vista wouldn't! The backward compatibility saw a major improvement.

    With 8 however many things are seeing a reverse trend in that area. While MS stressed OEMs to have device drivers and updated versions of things ready for 7 not too much besides Metro apps has been seen for 8! I think the software companies already realize that 8 is likely to flop "Big Time"! and are in no hurry to rush new stuff out.

    What MS has done with 8 is rather then follow a successful trend 7 enjoyed has now figuratively abandoned the all too familiar desktop OS for something else. Despite whateven security and other improvements 8 would bring in most are not too happy after a first look at it!
    I could not have said that any better myself.....I will not be running Win8 on my dell laptop.....not compatible with p4-m processor/bios....no install (fail.....it ran Win7 perfectly......what we appear to have here is a Microsoft attempt to add locked boot loaders to our personal hardware just like in the mobile market. there is no level of hell too deep for companies that think they own our devices or data and who think they should be able to dictate terms and conditions....we Americans deserve to suffer trough this kind of hell as we have consistently given companies a pass on poor customer relations and lousy hardware......no excuses are really necessary for companies with a just accept it attitude because you owe us your business.
    The problem with the unsupported cpu is that it does not support certain features of it that is required. There is also a work around for that but I am not sure what it is. (I saw the solution but did not save the site.) The fact that your 9 year old processor is not supported does not mean that Microsoft is trying to screw you over or lock you down.

    I keep hearing folks complain about this but not one so far has bothered to look up a solution.
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  9. #179


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I think the slow installation is a problem of the DVD reader. I found it to be faster when I installed directly from the .iso in Virtual Box.
    Since I planned to see the RP installed on VM Player as well as on the second OS drive I simply burned the iso to disk since the installation to VM afterwards would either be by disk or using the add new drive to mount the iso for installing it there as seen with the CP.

    As far as wear on the pair of optical drives having an effect I wouldn't be surprised in the least. I went back to ide optical since the sata dvd burner would suddenly start making grinding noises and simply quit. Yet the other installs to flash as far as a larger Linux distro which takes about the same amount of time as 7 or slightly longer as well as any fresh install of 7 by disk never saw a lengthy wait to load to the screen and the last configuration prior to reaching the desktop.

    It took about the same amount of time as a recent Vista install using a flash drive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    From the ISO on a memory stick mine installed in 15 minutes.
    Had the 8gb flash drive tied up for 7 USB Install Key! Despite RT 7 Lite I still ended up needing to install SP1 separately on the latest clean install of 7 that was needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobtran View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    W7 has been doing everything i need since it was first in beta finding the 32bit 7 would run things the 32bit Vista wouldn't! The backward compatibility saw a major improvement.

    With 8 however many things are seeing a reverse trend in that area. While MS stressed OEMs to have device drivers and updated versions of things ready for 7 not too much besides Metro apps has been seen for 8! I think the software companies already realize that 8 is likely to flop "Big Time"! and are in no hurry to rush new stuff out.

    What MS has done with 8 is rather then follow a successful trend 7 enjoyed has now figuratively abandoned the all too familiar desktop OS for something else. Despite whateven security and other improvements 8 would bring in most are not too happy after a first look at it!
    I could not have said that any better myself.....I will not be running Win8 on my dell laptop.....not compatible with p4-m processor/bios....no install (fail.....it ran Win7 perfectly......what we appear to have here is a Microsoft attempt to add locked boot loaders to our personal hardware just like in the mobile market. there is no level of hell too deep for companies that think they own our devices or data and who think they should be able to dictate terms and conditions....we Americans deserve to suffer trough this kind of hell as we have consistently given companies a pass on poor customer relations and lousy hardware......no excuses are really necessary for companies with a just accept it attitude because you owe us your business.
    Seeing the new lock screen pushed on you at first is how they get you by having you enter your Windows Live id until you discover later you can go into the Control Panel>Users and set up a local account which then will boot straight up to the ... Start screen! With a local account you can skip entering any password to see the automatic logon but still have to hit that desktop button.

    You get thrown off at first when going to install the CP and now the RP where you have to log into your Live account until you see how to change that around. The local account operates just like any admin account would for a previous version.
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  10. #180


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    From the ISO on a memory stick mine installed in 15 minutes.
    I can be wrong, but from what I noticed is that it took shorter time from bootable memory stick because it skips the first step (done longer in DVD reader). It just jumps to second step after few seconds.
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