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8 Ways Microsoft Will Tweak Windows 8

  1. #11


    Say... I wonder how all the users who save files on their desktops will work with Metro's huge tiles. Haven't used 8 personally, mind you, just seen the screenshots (those tiles look awfully large). These people barely understand folders (and the folder concept has been around Windows since forever), so anything with a file dialog box automatically gets pointed to their desktop "so I don't lose the file".

    The support tickets are going to be interesting reading.

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  2. #12


    Covington, La
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    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    The Desktop is still there, you just boot into the Start Screen and select the Desktop tile and you are there. The Start Screen is the new version of the Start menu with a new look and more options.

    Jim
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  3. #13


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    The Desktop is still there, you just boot into the Start Screen and select the Desktop tile and you are there. The Start Screen is the new version of the Start menu with a new look and more options.

    Jim

    An aborted and emasculated 'desktop' is available.

    The Start Screen is NOT the Start menu, and never will be.

    And it has LESS options. And as for the 'New Look'...it SUXORS!

    Goodbye, Windows.

    At first, I was really looking forward to Win 8. Loved the DP.

    BUT........

    Since the CP came out, and the more I learn about M$'s motives, and
    what's likely to (dis)appear in the retail build, I'm actually becoming quite
    HOSTILE towards Win 8.

    Windows ME and Windows Vista (both wrongly regarded as 'bad' OSes) were
    BOTH better than this bloody 'dog's breakfast'.

    Windows 7, or Ubuntu Linux. But NEVER this abortion of an OS.

    I'd sooner go back to DOS (which I do still run, on DOS-Box, and on one of my
    older machines with Windows for Workgroups 3.11).
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  4. #14


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Windows 8 without the bullshyt (Metro, the cloud, secure-boot, the removal of
    standard components etc) COULD be a bloody good OS.

    And it IS, under the bonnet.

    As it stands, though, and as it seems to be headed, I won't touch it.

    Sorry....not.



    And I've been using Windows since version 3.0, so I'm NOT a clueless newbie.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I tried the DP, and the CP.

    The CP (32-bit) is running on my other laptop, the 64-bit version has been and gone from this one.

    I'm not even going to bother with the RC at this stage.

    And won't be touching the retail version. Well, maybe after SP2, when/if they realise and correct
    what they've done (hopefully).

    No Start button or menu, no Aero, the GHASTLY Metro idea, no Media Centre, no DVD playback, this
    insidious 'cloud' they want to force me into, secure-boot, and all the rest may have been acceptable if
    there was a choice.

    But, nooooooo...M$ know better than me what I want and what I do? I doubt that.

    As I've said earlier, that's a shame, because there's a great little OS hidden in there

    Long live Windows 7, which will probably go down in history as Microsoft's finest effort.

    They should have put the (few, IMO) improvements (Task Manager, file-copy, etc) into a Service
    Pack for Win 7 and left it at that.

    (And I've used them all, since Win 3.0.)
    Kat? You can configure Win8 CP with a Start button, and it is quite easy. Brink has let us know about a program called ViStart, just download it, run it and THEN add the executable to your startup folder under program menu (It will have a program menu once you start the program ViStart). Then the next time you login your start button, and all the information that you are use to seeing will be there, and WHAT'S cool is, if you move your mouse to the immediate left of the newly found start button, you have the metro "Start" right there, and can click on it instead of the start button. Thank you Brink, GREAT find.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    You know Kat, maybe that's your problem, you've gotten used to doing things a certain way and just aren't willing to bend. Try to think of the future, the future is completely different to the past. The future is touch and mobile and tablets and also this is a faster better version of Windows, just with a different twist.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    You know Kat, maybe that's your problem, you've gotten used to doing things a certain way and just aren't willing to bend. Try to think of the future, the future is completely different to the past. The future is touch and mobile and tablets and also this is a faster better version of Windows, just with a different twist.
    Got an Android phone, and have absolutely NO interest in tablets.

    AT ALL!

    I'm a 'desktop man' through and through, and have been for a quarter of a century or more.

    And THAT will not change.

    It's not a matter of 'learning something new'.

    I CAN use Win 8. With ease.

    I simply don't LIKE it.

    It's 'improvements' should be Win7 SP2.

    As for the rest of it....no, thanks.

    I'm not trolling, either, that's simply the way I feel.

    I really did want to like 8 (the DP was OK, liked it), but am severely disillusioned....

    As things are, I wouldn't even bother pirating it. I certainly won't be BUYING it.


    BTW, by my tests, 8 is no faster than 7, except on boot-up, which, to me, is irrelevant.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 1,353
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Kat, I was a desktop man through and through as well, got an Android phone, liked that, bought an Android tablet, thought not too bad, then got an iPad. I can absolutely guarantee that tablets are the future for casual computing. When Windows 8 comes out on tablets I'm sure business will embrace its use as well.
    I know I'm only one of the few on here that like Windows 8, but I'm sure it will be a hit once a few little problems are ironed out. I must admit I can't see your problems with the desktop, to me it's not much different to Windows 7.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I tried the DP, and the CP.

    The CP (32-bit) is running on my other laptop, the 64-bit version has been and gone from this one.

    I'm not even going to bother with the RC at this stage.

    And won't be touching the retail version. Well, maybe after SP2, when/if they realise and correct
    what they've done (hopefully).

    No Start button or menu, no Aero, the GHASTLY Metro idea, no Media Centre, no DVD playback, this
    insidious 'cloud' they want to force me into, secure-boot, and all the rest may have been acceptable if
    there was a choice.

    But, nooooooo...M$ know better than me what I want and what I do? I doubt that.

    As I've said earlier, that's a shame, because there's a great little OS hidden in there

    Long live Windows 7, which will probably go down in history as Microsoft's finest effort.

    They should have put the (few, IMO) improvements (Task Manager, file-copy, etc) into a Service
    Pack for Win 7 and left it at that.

    (And I've used them all, since Win 3.0.)
    Kat? You can configure Win8 CP with a Start button, and it is quite easy. Brink has let us know about a program called ViStart, just download it, run it and THEN add the executable to your startup folder under program menu (It will have a program menu once you start the program ViStart). Then the next time you login your start button, and all the information that you are use to seeing will be there, and WHAT'S cool is, if you move your mouse to the immediate left of the newly found start button, you have the metro "Start" right there, and can click on it instead of the start button. Thank you Brink, GREAT find.


    Done that, Mike, I'm using StartMenu 7 and the Quick-launch toolbar.

    It's not a BAD OS, I simply dislike the way it's been implemented.

    It's NOT a matter of 'can't use' more a matter of simply don't like.

    And I was one of the few who stood up for Vista when it came out
    and got bagged (I beta-tested Vista, and loved it, the OS itself was
    never the issue, it was always hardware and support), but this one
    leaves me cold.


    Sorry, but that's the way it is.

    BTW, I was running my Win 8 machine last night, and turned Aero off to
    get an idea what Win 8 would look like without Aero.

    Windows 3.11 looks better.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I will be leaving it on my other laptop, to learn and play with it.

    But I can't, ATM, see it getting a guernsey on this machine as my main OS.

    Not yet, anyroad.
    Last edited by Kat; 28 May 2012 at 09:08.
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