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Making Windows Media Center available in Windows 8

  1. #11


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    I wonder if this means Windows 8 retail will be less than $100?

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    The one thing it does mean is that MS will be paying less for licenses. The real problem whether or not you use the Media Center or play vcds even as well as dvds on WMP is that the all too familiar items in Windows are being stripped away!

    The idea has been suggested that MS would be pressuring people into paid subscriptions for Cloud services while stripping their OS down to the bare essentials in many ways?! Will you want to paying out for more 3rd party wares to replace the things Windows has always seen included?

    I knew back when the 7 RC was out that the next Windows might prove to be a hard sell since 7 was obviously a success story. People wouldn't be rushing to move up out of 7 for some time soon. But MS has sidetracked away from following up on what does work for ...??? A setting up of the fail of the next version? Sounds that way!
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    Hi there
    I don't mourn the "Loss" of media center since nearly all the content you might want is provided by different companies such as say BBC (iPlayer) other On demand TV services etc. These usually have to be obtained from the provider and "technically" supposed to be used only in the countries they have "rights" for -- but with vpn's / proxies it's always possible to get the content you want.

    This sort of stuff can't really be centrally stored in a "Media center" very easily -- this is definitely a case for some 3rd party implementation.

    I'm glad the BASIC things an OS should have are being addressed -- such as Built in decent security (no 3rd party virus protection stuff needed), decent firewall, ISO Mounting (now provided in W8) .

    If you have to recover the original state of your system then the new REFRESH works quite well too.

    We don't really need both Internet explorer and Windows explorer -- this could be one function (you can always install other browsers if you want in any case).

    What STILL needs to be provided is a decent Backup and restore system that is RELIABLE, backups that can be restored on network / external drives and restores that can be performed from bootable media.

    I have no problems with 3rd party stuff say for DVD's playing etc --plenty of GOOD freebies which were always better than the MS one's anyway.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    i found some sites that allow you to download Windows Media Player for free. I must be missing something. None of them go higher than the Vista version, so I wonder if that will be incompatible with Windows 8.
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    The equivalent of WMP 13 is already included in 8. 12 was in 7 and 11 in Vista. You are likely looking at the downloadable version of 11 for XP. That wouldn't be compatible with 8.

    The other player out there of course is the Media Player Classic which you might be thinking about as well. But WMP and the Media Center are two different things entirely. Vince53

    One of the tuner cards here has it's own form of Media Center. That rules out the need here for the MC while others depend on it if viewing channels through the pc and not a separate tv set. I had to patch the 800 channel cablle box in through another component with composite out into the other tuner card since the tuner itself was limited on the number of channels as well.

    We don't really need both Internet explorer and Windows explorer -- this could be one function (you can always install other browsers if you want in any case).
    Don't need Windows Explorer? I find that statement a bit odd for sure there. jimbo45

    In the EU agreement of course IE would be an option while WE is an essential for file, folder, drive browsing. Of course now you could download the Better Explorer released just before the Developer Preview as a more full flavored(loaded with options on menu bar) version of WE.

    The sad part here for 8 will however be in WMP 13 no longer seeing dvd or vcd playback. I use WMP here regularly for testing burned disks for vcd projects as well as any dvd projects. As far as movies no need to rent them from some place like NetFlix since I can call them up by way of ISP here! Watch online or piped directly in through cable.

    One thing I should add here is what I found when testing the Backup & Restore features in 7. They are quite reliable for what they are. I suspect that 8 will be just as good in that area if not seeing any other improvements or new features added into what already works.

    The one thing that would be an idea for the system image option however would be what is seen with Acronis where you can mount an image as a second C drive seen in Windows Explorer in order to add or remove files from the image itself. MS could learn from that in making a Windows image mountable as well for incremental edits of images rather then always the need to replace existing ones for each new one that comes along.

    As for the Windows Easy Transfer tool that also proved reliable when setting a clean install along with all of the exact same programs to restore the backup made and watching as the same two different wallpapers one for each monitor reappeared showing that was able to preserve and restore all user files and settings without any problem.
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 07 May 2012 at 02:45. Reason: Additional comment
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    I have a tv tuner in my pc and use it regularly to catch up on tv programs. So far I have been able to use it in w8 except it goes straight to recording which I don't really want. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Hope this forum is ok for this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greygoose View Post
    I have a tv tuner in my pc and use it regularly to catch up on tv programs. So far I have been able to use it in w8 except it goes straight to recording which I don't really want. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Hope this forum is ok for this post.
    That's how it is supposed to work, so you can pause, rewind etc...

    If you don't want these features, I recommend using the software that can be downloaded for the adapter from the manufacturer's site.

    Great alternatives are: VirtualDub, iuVCR, VirtualVCR

    Depending on your hardware, you may have to run a nice deinterlace filter in those programs so you don't see the comb effect.
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    On just about any tuner card app you have to schedule a recording once the input signal is all set up. It works in the same fashion as the timer on a vcr as one example.

    With it recording automatically you will want to look over the schedule options and may end up needing to uninstall the software in order to see a fresh install all over to correct a software glitch of some type. Or you could simply be running into a compatibility issue with this being a totally new version of Windows coming where you would need to see if the manufacturer releases an 8 version of the program the card uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    On just about any tuner card app you have to schedule a recording once the input signal is all set up.
    None of the alternatives I listed in my previous post work like this at all.
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    Not every tuner card will see the exact same things. Some have their own Media Center while others are capture/tuner cards where the timed recording option is found in the app.
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