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Slow uptake of Windows 8 preview hints at lack of interest

  1. #31


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    @Night Hawk, Its not only about the Start menu, the metro forced upon the user and the 3rd party start menu alternatives doesn't allow to right click and pin the documents in them.

    I anyhow don't use WMP ever for playback, for audios I use Foobar2000 (Global Customizable Hotkeys) and for videos I use Media player classic or VLC, so that's not a worry for me anyhow but the other things which I said above and more doesn't make my mind to shift on win 8

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  2. #32


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    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You will have noticed the reduction of free skydrive storage - why do you think that is ?
    Yes, I've been a Skydrive user for years and recently, I got the notification that they would lower the free storage space from 25GBs to 7GBs. But since I've been an old user of Skydrive, they gave me the privilege to reclaim the whole 25GBs storage space. I thought that they just did that since most people don't even use Skydrive and those that do don't even fill more than 5GBs of space in there so MS has no need to allocate much storage space for Skydrive. I only store some Word and some other Office files there plus some pictures and compressed file archives but I still have maybe 24.6GBs free space left.
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  3. #33


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by paarkhi View Post
    @Night Hawk, Its not only about the Start menu, the metro forced upon the user and the 3rd party start menu alternatives doesn't allow to right click and pin the documents in them.

    I anyhow don't use WMP ever for playback, for audios I use Foobar2000 (Global Customizable Hotkeys) and for videos I use Media player classic or VLC, so that's not a worry for me anyhow but the other things which I said above and more doesn't make my mind to shift on win 8
    How is metro forced upon the user? That's like saying the start menu was being forced on the user back in Windows 95.
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    How is metro forced upon the user?
    It's the first and only thing you see when starting a machine to Windows 8, by default.
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  5. #35


    Perth West Australia
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    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    My attitude is simple. I'm not paying $420, (Aussie), for a retail system that offers only marginal improvements on what I've already got in W7; and for which I have to do hacks to get back an inferior start menu to W7 status. Then there's the Metro 'derailment' issue! Or was that a head on collision in the tunnel?
    Why, why, why ... should I!

    Having spent a large portion of my life in marketing, the prime purpose of any sale is to sell BENEFITS to the consumer! So sell me the 'benefits' of W8!

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    How is metro forced upon the user? That's like saying the start menu was being forced on the user back in Windows 95.
    Why should I be forced to take the metro, when I prefer to take the bus?

    Maybe I'm ignorant, but isn't the good old US of A market based economy run on open competition to ensure consumer choice & best price already?
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  6. #36


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    For desktops/laptops/notebooks there is no competition.

    At the top end (£899 Plus, Apple is king).

    Apple do not operate at the low end.

    There is only MS in that market.

    Businesses face such barriers to moving they would not contemplate it.

    MS can do what they like. The only limits are those imposed by competition authorities.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    For desktops/laptops/notebooks there is no competition.

    At the top end (£899 Plus, Apple is king).

    Apple do not operate at the low end.

    There is only MS in that market.

    Businesses face such barriers to moving they would not contemplate it.

    MS can do what they like. The only limits are those imposed by competition authorities.
    Fair comment, but still does not give me a reason to buy W8 while W7 is still alive and active.

    So, like the Eddie Fisher song says: "Tell me why, tell me why ... tell me why .. tell me why" ... I should buy W8???
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  8. #38


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    Exactly.

    If MS release something the end users do not want, it doesn't sell in huge numbers.

    That is not a big problem for MS - because the users stay with their existing windows - they have nowhere else to go.
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Exactly.

    If MS release something the end users do not want, it doesn't sell in huge numbers.

    That is not a big problem for MS - because the users stay with their existing windows - they have nowhere else to go.
    If that's the case and M$ consider themselves untouchable, then once W7 use by date is up, I would have to seriously consider Apple at the top end of the spectrum.

    That's assuming no new players come into the bottom end; and M$ don't make changes to future versions. It's a real shame they don't consider their long term supporters, because I would prefer to keep using Windows.

    Will Linux ever be a serious contender?
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by paarkhi View Post
    @Night Hawk, Its not only about the Start menu, the metro forced upon the user and the 3rd party start menu alternatives doesn't allow to right click and pin the documents in them.

    I anyhow don't use WMP ever for playback, for audios I use Foobar2000 (Global Customizable Hotkeys) and for videos I use Media player classic or VLC, so that's not a worry for me anyhow but the other things which I said above and more doesn't make my mind to shift on win 8
    Granted many don't even use WMP. I'm not disputing that numerous other players may be preferred. The problem there is for those that do could on WMP as an expected feature already included in Windows. The same applies to those who would generally rely on the Media Center.

    The new lock screen if a password has been assigned is what you first come to. I actually like the looks of that over the older user loge screen since you can very easily change the background image used!

    But the changes as far as stripping away the Start menu>All Programs for an in your face screen full of large buttons and need to keep going back to it if you want to open let's say a second WE or browser window or even other app makes it awkward without 3rd party help. And the drawbacks of using a 3rd party tool are obvious as well.

    While the move from 3.1 to 95 was a large leap look at what it brought with it in the progressive forward direction of an OS that suddenly automatically start up without typing the windows.exe command at a dos prompt as well as the improved gui and new media support with the introduction of the early not first but working WMP as well as OS/R2 offering support for 32bit apps on the old 16bit version there.

    The things that would see 8 become a seller will be support for Hyper V and improvements in the core as well as the updated security seen with an updated Windows Defender that actually works for a change as far as detection! The massive changes in appearance and how to move around however are more likely to become the main stumbling blocks for anyone wondering if they should upgrade into 8 however. This will be where MS is spinning a roulette wheel in a sense as far as how well 8 will sell following 7's success.

    And poppa bear people will be wondering whether Linux or the fruit company's OS would be the best option if they reject 8! They would likely be saying: "What will we now use for a new desktop OS for any new machines purchased?" as they stand around pondering on what to do next.

    For many however 8 is going to prove itself as being a bit awkward to get accustomed to. In the next several weeks however we will be getting a much better idea of just what the retail release will be actually like. The CP is stil a beta to designed to introduce what could be merely new set up options if MS decides to work things out a bit differently. Once we have the RP due out next month we can say where MS is going right or wrong with 8.
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