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  1. #51



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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    what else do I need?
    10, 11, 12.......... ?

    Thanks guys. It's Sunday morning here in Germany, I'm drinking my pot of coffee, listening to Sleepy John Estes, checking out the threads from last night, and just got a good laugh.

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  2. #52


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    what else do I need?
    10, 11, 12.......... ?

    Thanks guys. It's Sunday morning here in Germany, I'm drinking my pot of coffee, listening to Sleepy John Estes, checking out the threads from last night, and just got a good laugh.
    Lousy, rainy, cold morning, second coffee, third piece of apple pie (fighting with 2 cats for it) good tennis an very live desktop PC.
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  3. #53



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    This is how Microsoft should handle Windows 10, because the corporate world need a stabile long term release w/o any sudden new extras/changes, just security updates, and home users, want new and useful stuff:
    LTS
    LTS is an abbreviation for “Long Term Support”.
    We produce a new Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server release every six months [diagram below]. That means you'll always have the latest and greatest applications that the open source world has to offer. Ubuntu is designed with security in mind. You get free security updates for at least 9 months on the desktop and server.
    A new LTS version is released every 2 years. In previous releases, a Long Term Support (LTS) version had 3 years support on Ubuntu (Desktop) and 5 years on Ubuntu Server. Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both versions will receive 5 years support. There is no extra fee for the LTS version; we make our very best work available to everyone on the same free terms. Upgrades to new versions of Ubuntu are and always will be free of charge.
    The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive. The LTS may not apply to all flavors and remixes of Ubuntu. For example, for 8.04 LTS, Kubuntu chose to move to KDE 4.0 and didn't issue an LTS release. In 10.04, the Netbook Edition was not an LTS. The project will decide which flavors will be LTS and the support duration for each, early in the LTS development cycle.
    Some of the latest support windows are illustrated below:
    Release Plan Details

    1. We start stabilizing the release early by significantly limiting the number of new features. We will choose which features we package into the LTS release, versus which ones we leave out and allow for users to optionally download and use from a separate archive.
    2. Avoid structural changes as far as possible, such as changing the default set of applications, lots of library transitions, or system layer changes (example: introducing KMS or hal → DeviceKit would not have been appropriate changes in a LTS).


    Furthermore, we define the LTS to be:
    • Enterprise Focused: We are targeting server and multiple desktop installations, where the average user is moderately risk averse.
    • Compatible with New Hardware: We will make point releases throughout the development cycle to provide functional support for new server and desktop hardware.
    • More Tested: We will shorten the development window and extend the Beta cycle to allow for more testing and bug fixing


    and clearly state that it is not:

    • A Feature-Based Release: We will focus on hardening functionality of existing features, versus introducing new ones1, except for in the areas of Online Services and Desktop Experience2.

      • 1. Exceptions for priority projects will be documented.
        2. Because these two areas of development are relatively new, they still require new features to satisfy the original reasons for their creation


    • Cutting Edge: Starting with the 14.04 LTS development cycle, automatic full package import is performed from Debian unstable1

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  4. #54


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    What's this stuff got to do with the price of eggs.

    W7 is in security support to 2020, W10 probably to 2024 ---- that's surely more than long enough. By 2024 probably San Marino or Andorra will have won the FIFA World cup. !!

    Even 5 years is a geological epoch in current computer software and technology (although old stuff can always be made to work for a long time)--look at the Voyager I and II -- still sending back useful info from Billions of KM away on technology nearly HALF a CENTURY old --your Wireless KEYBOARD probably has more compute power in it than those Voyager space satellites had. !!

    Ms will do what it has to - support where possible and innovate to keep up with changing trends in technology usages. What it won't do is spend billions of dollars on supporting inherently obsolete systems which don't have a significant user base, after the end of life and support period has passed.

    As far as Ubuntu is concerned -- with the Canonical tie up many of its long time users are deserting it in droves -- it's questionable whether it will even be around in 2020 - definitely not as a significant player. One thing you CAN say about Windows - in so far as anything is 100% in technology - Windows will still be very much alive and kicking in 2020.

    Linux on the other hand will probably be reduced to Redhat/Centos/Fedora, from Red Hat, Opensuse/SUSE, from SUSE whileh MINT and the venerable old DEBIAN just hanging on as independents.. So looking at the idea of LTS if you are a Linux user means you should choose your distro with care. Windows on the other hannd sufferes from no such problems.

    Cheers
    jimbo.
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  5. #55



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    Hate to tell yo jimbo but Ubuntu is running on most large servers and super computers plus canonical JuJu and open stack for cloud servers-.even windows Azur uses it canonical will be around a long time. Windows 7 is now castrated(too bad I like it to) and will not get any more new features. I personally like Bleeding Edge new OS platforms/technologies.
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  6. #56


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    Wds 8.1 x 64Bit


    Hi All .
    Read a lot about wds 10 ... upgrade ... but still have a little confused ..!!
    I have a new laptop with Wds 8.1 ... as I understand that I can upgrade to wds 10 for free within the "FIRST YEAR" when M$ releases it ..
    Is this upgrade good for the life of the wds or just for 1 year ... then I have to "Buy" ..it ..? if I want to continue to use it ?

    Thanks .
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  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by Ronhp View Post
    Hi All .
    Read a lot about wds 10 ... upgrade ... but still have a little confused ..!!
    I have a new laptop with Wds 8.1 ... as I understand that I can upgrade to wds 10 for free within the "FIRST YEAR" when M$ releases it ..
    Is this upgrade good for the life of the wds or just for 1 year ... then I have to "Buy" ..it ..? if I want to continue to use it ?

    Thanks .
    Looks like it's good for the life of your device you upgrade from W7 or W8.1 during first year of W10.
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  8. #58


    Posts : 91
    windows 7 & 8


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronhp View Post
    Hi All .
    Read a lot about wds 10 ... upgrade ... but still have a little confused ..!!
    I have a new laptop with Wds 8.1 ... as I understand that I can upgrade to wds 10 for free within the "FIRST YEAR" when M$ releases it ..
    Is this upgrade good for the life of the wds or just for 1 year ... then I have to "Buy" ..it ..? if I want to continue to use it ?

    Thanks .
    Looks like it's good for the life of your device you upgrade from W7 or W8.1 during first year of W10.
    I think this is debatable, there has been no official word that I know of, on how MS would handle re-installs should your OS becomes unstable. It is not known if you can use your same 7,8,8.1 keys to unlock after the 1st year. Nor is it known if they will provide a install disc..

    Now here is the rub, if it is an upgrade then you would need to re-install your previous version of Windows, before you could install the upgrade.

    So, this free for life of the device stuff, is just a marketing ploy IMHO.

    I truly wish I liked Windows 10, but I am not fond of it, but the good news, is that in 2 years they will abandon it, and go onto something else.
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  9. #59



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    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronhp View Post
    Hi All .
    Read a lot about wds 10 ... upgrade ... but still have a little confused ..!!
    I have a new laptop with Wds 8.1 ... as I understand that I can upgrade to wds 10 for free within the "FIRST YEAR" when M$ releases it ..
    Is this upgrade good for the life of the wds or just for 1 year ... then I have to "Buy" ..it ..? if I want to continue to use it ?

    Thanks .
    Looks like it's good for the life of your device you upgrade from W7 or W8.1 during first year of W10.
    I think this is debatable, there has been no official word that I know of, on how MS would handle re-installs should your OS becomes unstable. It is not known if you can use your same 7,8,8.1 keys to unlock after the 1st year. Nor is it known if they will provide a install disc..

    Now here is the rub, if it is an upgrade then you would need to re-install your previous version of Windows, before you could install the upgrade.

    So, this free for life of the device stuff, is just a marketing ploy IMHO.

    I truly wish I liked Windows 10, but I am not fond of it, but the good news, is that in 2 years they will abandon it, and go onto something else.
    No Big deal. 2 words: System Image
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  10. #60


    That raises some interesting questions. Let's say you have a laptop with OEM Win8 on it, you upgrade to W10, does W10 becomes OEM too so you're stuck with that laptop and those W10 ?
    Let's say you bought W8, lock stock and barrel, that one you can transfer to another MB/computer, you upgrade to W10, does that mean you can keep W10 past that computer too ?
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