Will Windows 10 make it

In the desktop world, Microsoft's biggest competitor is always itself. Or rather, in this case, Microsoft circa 2009, which is when Windows 7 was launched. According to figures from Netmarketshare, Windows 7 still accounts for 56 percent of the desktop market. Windows XP (launched back in 2001) is on 18 percent, while Windows 8 and 8.1 combined come in at about 15 percent, which shows just how well Windows 8 has performed.

Windows 10: Can Microsoft get it right this time? | ZDNet
 
I dunno. I did try out the consumer preview for Windows 8, which led me to purchase an upgrade license once it was released. I don't think I will care to do the same for 10, plus now that I hear about the keylogger thing included, I won't even bother...

To me it felt like MS short-changed 8.1 users by not including start menu. So, they should give away 10 for free to these users. I can understand charging for 7, since it's just Vista with a new taskbar. Vista and 7 both had start menu, but 8.1 didn't. Anyways, I couldn't really care less. I like Win 8.1 as it is and will probably continue to make use of my license...
 

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Will Windows 10 make it?

Only time will tell. Experts like to make predictions but often they are wrong, sometimes very wrong. There were those who predicted that XP would be a flop.
 

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I dunno. I did try out the consumer preview for Windows 8, which led me to purchase an upgrade license once it was released. I don't think I will care to do the same for 10, plus now that I hear about the keylogger thing included, I won't even bother...

To me it felt like MS short-changed 8.1 users by not including start menu. So, they should give away 10 for free to these users. I can understand charging for 7, since it's just Vista with a new taskbar. Vista and 7 both had start menu, but 8.1 didn't. Anyways, I couldn't really care less. I like Win 8.1 as it is and will probably continue to make use of my license...
What is this Keylogger thing. Do you have any reference/link please.
 

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Will Windows 10 make it?

Only time will tell. Experts like to make predictions but often they are wrong, sometimes very wrong. There were those who predicted that XP would be a flop.

Absolutely right. The last time I listened to the predictions of a stock market expert I lost a lot of money, :eek:
 

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I dunno. I did try out the consumer preview for Windows 8, which led me to purchase an upgrade license once it was released. I don't think I will care to do the same for 10, plus now that I hear about the keylogger thing included, I won't even bother...

To me it felt like MS short-changed 8.1 users by not including start menu. So, they should give away 10 for free to these users. I can understand charging for 7, since it's just Vista with a new taskbar. Vista and 7 both had start menu, but 8.1 didn't. Anyways, I couldn't really care less. I like Win 8.1 as it is and will probably continue to make use of my license...
What is this Keylogger thing. Do you have any reference/link please.

Windows 10's 'built-in keylogger'? Ha ha, says Microsoft..
 

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[What is this Keylogger thing. Do you have any reference/link please.

WHY is this still being debated?? Microsoft has admitted to using keystrokes as a routine form of "data collection". That IS "keylogging" -- period!

And WHY are we debating this here -- on this forum??

This has already been debated -- at length -- on the Windows 10 forum.

Let's not start this tedious debate all over again on this forum. Please!
 

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Thanks Derek for the link. I must have missed that. I turned off the internet in my Win10 virtual system. That should do it.
 

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[What is this Keylogger thing. Do you have any reference/link please.

WHY is this still being debated?? Microsoft has admitted to using keystrokes as a routine form of "data collection". That IS "keylogging" -- period!

And WHY are we debating this here -- on this forum??

This has already been debated -- at length -- on the Windows 10 forum.

Let's not start this tedious debate all over again on this forum. Please!

Like whs, I wasn't aware of it until now, but now I've read about it, I think if one is going to test software it should be expected that a tester's use of that software will be monitored for the testing period at some stage. It's not a problem and it's in the agreement. If you've seen alot of discussion on this subject, I agree; it's much ado about nothing.
 

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1st, Yes Windows 10 will make it. Windows 10 has not even hit CP yet and has already a measurable percentage of market share. Plus honestly what is Windows 10 missing? Everything people have been complaining about that has been missing from Windows 8.1 has been added and some.

2nd, as for the key logger I understand people's concern but honestly how many of these people complaining about the key logger have a Android or iOS device? If you read the user agreement you will find that Google and Apple collect a great deal of data on their users as well and not to mention the apps you install collect some insane data as well. Don't get me wrong complain as if enough people do this might keep MS from going down the same track as every other company but give them a break if you own another product which is already violating your privacy.
 

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I for my part have no complaints. I use the internet from a virtual Linux system. I have no need for internet in Windows 10 TP which also runs in virtual. And without internet they cannot track anything.
 

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I for my part have no complaints. I use the internet from a virtual Linux system. I have no need for internet in Windows 10 TP which also runs in virtual. And without internet they cannot track anything.

That's what I did to my Visual Studio system, completely sandboxed from the internet. No dialing back to MS to reveal all my source codes...
 

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Windows 10 HAS to make it ...
Microsoft has deep enough pockets to make it make it ...

Most people don't want to beat up on Microsoft anymore
- Windows 8.1 is a fine OS. It got off to a bad start and people cried "There's no start button" - Picayune, not technical arguments.

Technical writers are already saying good things about Windows 10
 

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After watching the MS feed today, Windows 10 will do just fine. Will run on everything from Phones to the new 84" 4K Surface Hub and everything in between. Even has a Start Menu. It will be "awesome"

Free upgrade for Windows 7 and 8.1 the 1st year after release, so I look for a big jump that first year.

Jim :cool:
 

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I'm a natural born skeptic. Have been for 71 years and I doubt I'll change anytime soon.

I was a moderator on the old Windows 8 forum, and with all the complaints I'd have to say that Win-8 was a disaster.
Windows 8.1 was MS's salvation. It works! What more can we say? And with the "Classic Shell", it works even better.
It allows a person who's old XP PC has shot craps, to buy a brand new PC and still feel at home with a look they recognize.

I've set up many new PC's for my customers, which came with Windows 8 or 8.1 and the first thing I did was install the Classic Shell.
Without that, the new PC would have been taken back to the store for a refund.
A friend who works for Office Depot, told me they get about 30% of the Windows 8 or 8.1 PC's returned as unusable. I get that!

Even with Windows 10 which looks like it's going to be a Keeper, I still install the "Classic Shell" because older users want a look and feel that they are familiar with, not some new thing that makes a home computer look like a cell phone.

It appears, from my limited experience with Windows 10, that it's going to be able to be installed on almost any PC. It's installed and working GREAT on my own 10 year old, home made Desktop PC.

As with any OS, Windows 10 will run better on PC's that have at least 4 GB of ram memory installed and a good, fast, SATA II or III hard drive.
But apparently it will run OK on systems with much less.

The hardware driver package that comes with Windows 10 is excellent. It even picked up my Epson XP-410 printer, with no problem.
But then, Epson has always been quick to provide MS with all the latest printer drivers, unlike HP and some other brands.

It will be interesting, to see what MS does with Win-10, between now and the final release. Can't wait!!!

Cheers mates!
TechnoMage :cool:
 

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I will upgrade my 8.1 license. But I'm not so keen on 10. If I can triple boot 7/8/10, I will most likely use 7/8. 10 will be just there to "future proof" the machine.

Next, I don't understand the extra complications in W10, like an additional fullscreen button on the top right corner. What's up with that? Usually fullscreen apps will go full screen when I click maximize, so no need for an extra button there... Also, Cortana. Big lol, why do I need to type "what's the weather like in NY?" into the search box when a simple, "NY weather" will do? This natural human language thingy, why the extra complications and keystrokes? Als, what really felt weird was, "so how are you today Cortana?" when all you're talking to are transistor gates, not a real life person... The only thing I was impressed about W10 was the new minimalist settings app iconography.

But, W10 is full of irony, b/c in the quest to create a minimalist OS, MS manages to introduce extra complications like the above...
 
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I like Win 8.1 and I'll upgrade to Win 10 ASAP...
 

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Hi there

IT WILL make it so long as people who want to use their desktop / laptop systems in a professional workplace as a "Classic Computer" can turn off / hide all the tiles and other "metro" stuff.

Metro apps which work as normal windowed applications are fine provided they can be launched from a classic type of start menu.

For touch / tablets/ convertibles W10 is beginning to shape up.

I know it's a WIP - but so far so good.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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