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8 things Microsoft needs to do to save Windows 8

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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    What the Start screen does is put all program buttons in your face immediately rather then going through the three step process of click on Start, click on All Programs, click on program folder if one is present since some are simply items with an icon only like IE or other browser, Windows dvd maker, Secunia PSI if installed, etc. Plus you can move your finger back and forth much faster then moving a mouse cursor for the obvious speed advantage as well as grab windows and resize as well as move them with your finger tips.

    The downsides are also things like custom themes people love to apply to their "desktops" not Start screen as well as not waiting for a tool bar to finally come out from the right side when it appears in order to shutdown, logoff(missing in CP, sleep mode instead), or reboot. Other then the appearance changes to menus like Settings and Apps the majority however will tend to look at "what else" 8 will be bringing in as well.

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  2. #22


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Word DOES crash sometimes - although I have to say not particularly often and it's often caused probably by me in trying to mess about with attachments.
    I can't remember Word crashing (I guess it depends on your definition).

    What happens is functions stop working:

    • Try to re-Number, it doesn't do it or it re-numbers everything at random.
    • Try to apply a Style, nothing happens.
    • Headers and Footers not staying in their defined document sections.

    Restarting Word always fixes the glitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    As far as "Security nightmare" -- well I've NEVER had any virus on a private PC -- and I have sometime in the past used some "decent Torrent" sites (if "decent" can be applied to them. I remember in the early days of W7 to get latest builds Torrents were almost "legal" !!!!!). Security is usually caused by bad computer practices and user giving away data rather than sensibly surfing the Internet.
    I guess you've missed the constant stream of articles about (and updates for) Flash and Java.

    I haven't had a malware-related system failure, since I stopped using IE6 on XP (~6 years ago).
    I'm shocked if I see malware in my Virus Vault (I think the last time was ~6 months ago).
    I rarely installing anything except updates (Windows and programs).

    My point was, you can't sue software makers for shoddy workmanship (unlike auto-makers, home builders, appliance makers, etc.).

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Security is usually caused by bad computer practices and user giving away data rather than sensibly surfing the Internet.
    According to most articles I've seen, most malware infections rely on tricking the user into installing something (social engineering).
    Better computer education would help reduce the infection rate.
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  3. #23


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    Hi Nighthawk
    Your point about the "classical" start screen putting all the programs in front of you *can* be valid if you haven't installed a lot of programs each having ZILLIONS of sub menus and those sub menus having get more choices

    I.e

    Progam===>submenu1===>sub sub menu1 and so on

    >submenu2

    It gets VERY unwieldy -- this is where people either put stuff on the desktop or taskbar to avoid these menu searches.

    Also if you are using a notebook with a small screen the old menu system doesn't work very well on it either - sometimes you can't get all the stuff on to the menu. On a large screen or even a "Normal" laptop it's not a problem.


    Fine if you just have OFFICE, Photoshop and possibly one or two other programs.

    I don't mind the Metro start --just the Tiles are so ugly and it would be nice say when clicking some tiles to have a set of "sub tiles" rather than an infinite left scroll on the screen.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #24


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    For Tablet you can see the obvious advantage while for the desktop with a multitude of programs the constant back and forth to the Start screen is the drawback! What MS will need would be a desktop or portable mode option for system builders as well as the option to auto login on the desktop bypassing the Metro for those who won't be using any touchscreens.

    Here I hardly ever use the Start except to restart or copy a new desktop shortcut since I have everything either pinned on the taskbar or mostly found in additional Quick Launch type toolbars as well as RocketDock. The methodology keeps everything organized under different catagories as well as a zero shortcut desktop for both displays.

    As for Word in 8 that's now called the Windows Write just to make a note on that when wondering why there was no Word to find at first. Some name changes have been seen.
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