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    Yosemite upgrade stops Macs with aftermarket SSDs from booting

    There’s a new security feature in OS X Yosemite that could render your computer unbootable. If you’ve been using an SSD with Trim support enabled, proceed with caution.

    Turning on Trim is a great way to extend the life of SSDs and keep them performing at the peak of their abilities. OS X, however, only supports Trim on Apple-supplied SSDs. If you upgraded the drive at some point, you couldn’t simply switch on Trim and go about your business as usual. Apple’s drivers won’t allow it.
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    Hm, and I always thought that MS was the bad guy. But I bet apple sheeps are quickly coming up with a reason why this bug is actually a feature which was entirely benevoled by apple
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    Well, microsoft actually always was the good guy, its just that nobody loved him. apple always was the bad guy, its just that apple fanboys doesnt think much about it. microsoft only has windows, while apple has osx and its own branded hardware, so its really easy to make osx to work with like 2-3 cpus and 2-3 graphics cards and so on - buying windows, you buy an os, and by buying osx, you sell your soul to apple, because you can use only hardware, that apple "approves". It would be same as saying, that by buying windows, you should know what you are doing, and apple develops a complete noob sets, so that it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altae View Post
    But I bet apple sheeps are quickly coming up with a reason why this bug is actually a feature which was entirely benevoled by apple
    Doesn't take an apple Sheep to find reasons for this. As a predominately Linux and Windows guy, let me explain. #1) This is NOT a bug, bugs are accidental and unintentional. #2) This was implemented to tighten up security, as Apple doesn't want unsigned drivers potentially opening security holes and wreaking havoc on an Apple product. #3) You do realize that Microsoft has required signed device drivers for numerous years now, right? #4) Apple surprisingly is going to let users disabled kext signing requirements, thus allowing these SSD's to work.

    I'd venture that the overwhelming majority of Apple users are not upgrading their hardware on their own, so this is a moot issue and increased security is nothing but good for them. For the few who do upgrade on their own, Apple is allowing them to do so...almost unheard of from Apple so it's not even a loss for them. Those who do upgrade on their own, just have to accept a little less security and keep a more watchful eye since their boxes will now allow unsigned drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by basher View Post
    Well, microsoft actually always was the good guy, its just that nobody loved him. apple always was the bad guy, its just that apple fanboys doesnt think much about it.
    I think your statement might be a little wide. I wouldn't say that Microsoft has ALWAYS been the good guy. They have plenty of skeletons in their closet. They have had questionable business tactics too. They allowed wide open boxes, with everybody running as admins with little to no security for many years. So many boxes were compromised and many people didn't know it. They have some ridiculous patents (for things like Page UP and Page Down...just look them up some time).


    Quote Originally Posted by basher View Post
    microsoft only has windows, while apple has osx and its own branded hardware, so its really easy to make osx to work with like 2-3 cpus and 2-3 graphics cards and so on - buying windows, you buy an os, and by buying osx, you sell your soul to apple, because you can use only hardware, that apple "approves". It would be same as saying, that by buying windows, you should know what you are doing, and apple develops a complete noob sets, so that it.
    It seems like those who are most butt-hurt by Apple are the die-hard Windows fans. Much of the Apple appeal is having hardware that more or less just works. Part of this ecosystem has always been just a few choices of hardware. Without a doubt it makes it easier to design the OS when you can control everything that goes into it. And with that advantage, comes the disadvantage that your hardware choices are limited. I think the thing that many Windows enthusiasts struggle to understand is why people would willingly make that trade-off.

    I've worked for Windows software companies my entire professional working life. Mac's 10 years ago would only surface in the marketing or graphics departments. However, there is no doubt that more and more Macs are showing up in business. Many of our senior developers, software architects and upper management are now using Mac's at the office. When you attend trade shows anymore, you no doubt see more and more Mac's. When we do online meetings with vendors and people share their screens, more and more these days you end up seeing a Mac on the other end of the connection.

    I've been RedHat certified and Microsoft Certified since the late 90's and I have a lot of techie friends in the industry. Almost all of us these days own a Mac and many have gotten to the point where they prefer a Mac. These aren't people who require a "noob set", they are overwhelmingly more than capable of building their own hardware installing with Linux or Windows and carrying on just fine. But the point that I make is that they have decided that they don't WANT to do this. They would rather just carry the Mac that is great hardware, is light, wakes up and goes to sleep just about instantly, hardly ever needs to be rebooted, and runs all day on battery. Many of my techie friends have said to me, "with my Mac, I carry it to all meetings, use it all day, and I never have to carry my power brick around with me. They don't worry much at all about viruses, malware, trojans, spyware, etc. Many of us spend a great deal of time coding or working on a command line on Linux style systems, so having the underlying shell support on the Apple platform is just great. Makes things a bit more seamless for them.

    While i purchased my first ever Apple device earlier this year (MacBook Pro), and have no regrets and almost use this computer exclusively now at home, I'm not sold on Apple. If I had to pick 1 and only 1 laptop, it would likely still be a Windows device. But since I have a nice Windows 8.1 laptop at work (core i7, 16GB of RAM, 512GB Samsung 840 Pro), which I can use for all of my day to day Windows tasks, I just appreciate having something different at home for my evening computer use. The fact that the Mac wakes up and goes to sleep instantly is numero uno for my nightly home use. It's worked flawlessly for me in the 8 months I have owned it. And I think I have only booted it about 5 times since I bought it, even though I use it almost every day.

    Oh yeah, before I hit submit, I previously had tried a "hackintosh" build. While I did get it up and working, it was probably one of the biggest wastes of time in and money in my life. It was hard for me to see any of the benefits of Apple, without actually being on the Apple hardware. And for the record, I hate iTunes, I cannot get along with iPhones either. My wife has an Ipad Air and my son an iPad mini...they are ok...but I generally hate tablets. Doesn't matter if it's a surface pro, an android tablet or an iPad. I find it just miserable working on the little screen with onscreen keyboards, etc. Give me my laptop with full size keyboard any day.
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