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Will Windows 8 drive sales of touchscreen notebooks?

  1. #11


    It's true that most touchscreens available today were designed for Windows 7. They will work pretty well on Win 8, but the edges don't work well. I have predicted elsewhere that within a few years, no one will be manufacturing nontouch screens.

    As for laptops, there is already a $106 Android touchscreen tablet on the market. It will take longer, but eventually, all laptops will be touchscreen.

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  2. #12


    [QUOTE=GMan;82224]
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Right, exactly. Here's the problem (for the industry I mean): Granny's old P4 browses and e-mails just fine. Average man Joe's old desktop does these things just fine too. Unless you're a gamer, video enthusiast or use the pc in some similar way, you don't have any reason at all to upgrade hardware.
    I think you're forgetting students as a segment of the new pc hardware market. Currently, a lot of exam taking software still runs much more safely on PCs than on Macs, (I say this as a recentl law grad) which influences what students buy independently of what they want. Want: an I pad to dick around on; get a tablet to take exams on and dick around on.

    I bought my tablet in the second year of law school to save me the trouble of carrying text books around: I just photographed the pages of my text book, and uploaded the images to OneNote, which was usefully touch enabled in Win7, and where I could mark up text, take notes, record lectures, and still sell my textbook back. Time consuming? Maybe, but not much -- and since One Note has decent text recognition it turned my textbooks searchable.

    What I wanted was to be able to go home, flip the lid on my tablet and kick back reading the Kindle app or browsing teh interwebs, but I didn't get that until Win8CP. Add in the app store and a Win8 tablet becomes a pretty solid study/timewasting machine.

    True, I wouldn't want to have to reach over my desk to use touch on a desktop pc, but a fully touch enabled OS just changes the way you hold your tablet, and you can always reverse the screen onto itself and hold it like a slate until some desktop task comes up.

    None of this really amounts to a prediction of Win8s success. I mean, what do I know? I was only one of two tablet pc users that I knew of in my law school. And passers-by looked at my machine more as a kind of neat gimmick (and "god++++ you, I'm carrying 30lbs of textbooks and a laptop and all you have is a slim little netbook looking thing, not even a paper notebook!").

    Probably the success of win8 on tablets will depend more on marketing, as all things do.
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  3. #13


    I've always thought that those notebooks with the swivel screens were pretty slick. Especially with handwriting recognition. If tablet computers had handwriting recognition, I would get one because I hate those touchscreen keyboards.

    An all touchscreen computer with no keyboard would be useless for many people. I can't imagine a journalist writing a 3,000 word article by poking at an imaginary keyboard. Or an accountant preparing a large spreadsheet.
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  4. #14


    [QUOTE=GMan;82224]
    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Right, exactly. Here's the problem (for the industry I mean): Granny's old P4 browses and e-mails just fine. Average man Joe's old desktop does these things just fine too. Unless you're a gamer, video enthusiast or use the pc in some similar way, you don't have any reason at all to upgrade hardware.
    Back in the day I was a programmer and did most of my work in assembly language or C. I usually had the bleeding edge of technology on my desk at work. At home it was a different matter since it came out of my pocket. At home, I wrote letters and balanced my checkbook. Later it was letters, checkbook and email with some photo editing. No need to keep buying the latest and greatest.

    My current computer is almost five years old. I've stuck a larger hard drive into it and upgraded the OS to Win 7 and it does what I need it to do. When will I get a new computer? When this one ceases to do what I need it to do. I don't play any games other than Cue Club and Frogger so I don't need the blistered leading edge of computing.

    I look at new motherboards and am dissuaded from buying one because they lack expansion slots. Cases still accommodate many expansion cards but the motherboards don't. I still have a modem in my computer that I use for fax so there's one PCI slot, I have a Firewire card because my video camera has Firewire and I have a four port USB card. So that's at least 3 PCI slots that I need but I don't see motherboards having them. So unless I want to start buying all sorts of new hardware, which I don't want to do, I don't see myself getting a new computer or upgrading to Win 8.

    Many people are in the same situation but they just don't realize it. Far too many people, not gamers or power users, will go out and buy a new computer because their hard drive fails or their monitor craps out. So now they'll get a computer with Win 8 and get frustrated because everything that they've used in the past is suddenly gone. Sadly, most don't even know that they can look for ways to make their new computer look like the old one. The default setup is the way that their computer is and always will be.

    Where is this going? I don't know. I had a direction in mind when I started writing but I've lost my way.

    End of rant.
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  5. #15


    Glad to hear from you, Barnabas. Many moons ago, I was shocked to read a technical article stating that you don't have to go out and buy the latest software. I used old copies of Quicken and MS Money for years with no problem. MS Works for Windows 3.1 worked great for almost two decades. I have lots of old games, and I keep my legal copy of 32 bit XP on another partition for some of them.

    If it does what you want, you're fine.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    If it does what you want, you're fine.
    Yep. I'm not sure if it is the result of wearing blinders or a desire to drive more income but many in the computer biz have trouble with that concept.

    After my programming days, I did computer consulting for small businesses, mostly stock brokers and lawyers. I set up their networks and advise them on hardware. A frequent question was "Do I need a new computer?"

    I'd ask why they thought that they needed a new computer and usually it was because a nephew or grandson had made some disparaging remark about their three year old machine. I'd ask the simple question, "Does it do what you need to do fast enough?" Despite having fairly deep pockets, most of those guys would rather spend their money on a new golf club than on a new computer that wouldn't make their life any easier.

    It's like the appliance salesman who told me that I needed to replace my 30 year old refrigerator. Why? He said that it would save me energy and it would but I crunched the numbers and found that it would be over a decade before I saw any payback. However, the new refigerator would keep my beer cold just as well as the old one and wouldn't last nearly as long. In my basement, I have a second refrigerator that my parents bought in 1959. It is still running. My main refrigerator was bought in 1973. A new super-deluxe refrigerator has an expected life of 10 or 12 years. If it works, hang onto it.
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    Agreed. I installed Windows 7 on m sister's old T42 (and took it apart to tighten all of the screws), and it runs like brand new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefalopod View Post

    I bought my tablet in the second year of law school to save me the trouble of carrying text books around: I just photographed the pages of my text book, and uploaded the images to OneNote, which was usefully touch enabled in Win7, and where I could mark up text, take notes, record lectures, and still sell my textbook back. Time consuming? Maybe, but not much -- and since One Note has decent text recognition it turned my textbooks searchable.
    Great minds....

    I've done the same with lots of books and OneNote except I'm not in law school and don't use a tablet. Would love to be able to do this sort of thing with an 8 tablet, depends on the price and how good they are. Already decided to bypass 8 for my laptop/desktop, but it is this kind of stuff that I'd like in a portable device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabasSackett View Post
    I've always thought that those notebooks with the swivel screens were pretty slick. Especially with handwriting recognition. If tablet computers had handwriting recognition, I would get one because I hate those touchscreen keyboards.

    An all touchscreen computer with no keyboard would be useless for many people. I can't imagine a journalist writing a 3,000 word article by poking at an imaginary keyboard. Or an accountant preparing a large spreadsheet.
    I wouldn't want anything without a working keyboard or be able to add one on. The idea of swivel screen and touch or swivel back for a regular laptop would be a thought for convenience where you can simply turn the screen and touch for a fast referencing.

    But the take away of the all too familiar desktop won't be much of a seller to those who have already found 7 to be the best version out of the box in the past few years! The most MS can expect to see with most strictly desktop users as opposed to carrying a nice portable would be some simply dual booting with a previous version to retain an all too familiar desktop OS.

    The drawbacks of the lack of 5 point touchscreens can be compared somewhat to how XP Pro 64 was received back in 2005 not seeing hardly any 3rd party support. With Vista and more for 7 the 3rd parties started getting their acts together. Likewise 8 will be the bold new MS adventure as far as new technologies still to come but not quite seen fully at present.
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  10. #20


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    Hi there
    For computer "Officy" (Word, Powerpoint, EXCEL, accessing Back office stuff etc) type work Touch screens are an abomination.

    I usually sit WELL back from the Screen or Monitor and often have a WIRELESS keyboard on my Lap.

    Touch screens are really only suited for Full screen Metro type apps or those apps where the user doesn't need to supply much input -- but try creating a complex powerpoint tutorial with a Touch screen and no keyboard.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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