Windows 8 Start button isn't coming back...

Microsoft looked at Win 7 and asked themselves: "How can we force users to actually help us make money?"

Engineer #1: "Well, we could design a program called Metro that users can run by going to the Start menu."

Engineer's boss: "No, that's not intrusive enough. People that don't want to be spammed will avoid it. That's it! The Start Menu WILL be Metro! Almost everyone uses this and if we make Metro here instead, people WILL click on to it!"
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86
    CPU
    P4 3.4 GHz HT
    Motherboard
    MSI-7211
    Memory
    OCZ 2 GB DDR @ 400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    HIS AGP HD 3850 Turbo Ice-Q
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
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    Acer x223w
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    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar Black 1 TB Sata II, WD 400 GB Sata I, WD 120 GB Sata I
    PSU
    300W generic
    Case
    Cybertron
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keyboard 200, Dell RT7D20
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    2 MByte/sec Down, 250 KByte/sec Up
Microsoft looked at Win 7 and asked themselves: "How can we force users to actually help us make money?"

Engineer #1: "Well, we could design a program called Metro that users can run by going to the Start menu."

Engineer's boss: "No, that's not intrusive enough. People that don't want to be spammed will avoid it. That's it! The Start Menu WILL be Metro! Almost everyone uses this and if we make Metro here instead, people WILL click on to it!"

Sounds about right. Looks like I have bought my last release of Windows, 7 that is. Will see what 9 is like I guess. After that hate to say it...Linux or Mac
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 CP 64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Me
    CPU
    AMD Athlon X2 2.4G
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    6GS
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI HD 5450
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 75hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 80g SATA3 x2 System/Backup
    Keyboard
    MS
    Mouse
    MS
    Internet Speed
    10 mgs
    Other Info
    This is just my test machine.
Microsoft looked at Win 7 and asked themselves: "How can we force users to actually help us make money?"

Engineer #1: "Well, we could design a program called Metro that users can run by going to the Start menu."

Engineer's boss: "No, that's not intrusive enough. People that don't want to be spammed will avoid it. That's it! The Start Menu WILL be Metro! Almost everyone uses this and if we make Metro here instead, people WILL click on to it!"

Sounds about right. Looks like I have bought my last release of Windows, 7 that is. Will see what 9 is like I guess. After that hate to say it...Linux or Mac
Lots of luck with Linux or Mac. You will love that there are few programs available to do what you want to do. At least you will not get confused - although in Linux I am not sure. You can even get confused if there is only 1 program.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs
Microsoft looked at Win 7 and asked themselves: "How can we force users to actually help us make money?"

Engineer #1: "Well, we could design a program called Metro that users can run by going to the Start menu."

Engineer's boss: "No, that's not intrusive enough. People that don't want to be spammed will avoid it. That's it! The Start Menu WILL be Metro! Almost everyone uses this and if we make Metro here instead, people WILL click on to it!"

Sounds about right. Looks like I have bought my last release of Windows, 7 that is. Will see what 9 is like I guess. After that hate to say it...Linux or Mac
Lots of luck with Linux or Mac. You will love that there are few programs available to do what you want to do. At least you will not get confused - although in Linux I am not sure. You can even get confused if there is only 1 program.

How can you possibly say "You will love that there are few programs available to do what you want to do" have you ever looked through a repository for a virtually any distribution? Failing that you have Cedega/Wine.

although in Linux I am not sure. You can even get confused if there is only 1 program.

Linux is not a difficult Operating System to use, in some ways it's easier than Windows, especially with regard to adding and updating applications. Granted, there are areas where things could be a lot better and it doesn't help having so many different distributions, but for day to day usage it's really not hard.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux
    CPU
    FX-8350
    Motherboard
    GA-990XA-UD3
    Memory
    16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Various
    PSU
    Corsair HX 850W
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian
    Cooling
    Thermalright
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    50/50
    Browser
    firefox
I'm slowly but surely finding my ways in Linux. Trying to edit my hosts file and etc/samba/smb.conf file was getting me a little wild because of permissions. (I just wanted to right click them and take ownership. grrrrr) Luckily, I now know su, sudo though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86
    CPU
    P4 3.4 GHz HT
    Motherboard
    MSI-7211
    Memory
    OCZ 2 GB DDR @ 400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    HIS AGP HD 3850 Turbo Ice-Q
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer x223w
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar Black 1 TB Sata II, WD 400 GB Sata I, WD 120 GB Sata I
    PSU
    300W generic
    Case
    Cybertron
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keyboard 200, Dell RT7D20
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    2 MByte/sec Down, 250 KByte/sec Up
I'm slowly but surely finding my ways in Linux. Trying to edit my hosts file and etc/samba/smb.conf file was getting me a little wild because of permissions. (I just wanted to right click them and take ownership. grrrrr) Luckily, I now know su, sudo though.

I assume you've already found chown and chmod However, if you really want, You can also use virtually any of the 'modern' file managers to perform most permission/owner type tasks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux
    CPU
    FX-8350
    Motherboard
    GA-990XA-UD3
    Memory
    16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Various
    PSU
    Corsair HX 850W
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian
    Cooling
    Thermalright
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    50/50
    Browser
    firefox
I've seen them referenced but never used them yet. Thanks!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86
    CPU
    P4 3.4 GHz HT
    Motherboard
    MSI-7211
    Memory
    OCZ 2 GB DDR @ 400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    HIS AGP HD 3850 Turbo Ice-Q
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer x223w
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar Black 1 TB Sata II, WD 400 GB Sata I, WD 120 GB Sata I
    PSU
    300W generic
    Case
    Cybertron
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keyboard 200, Dell RT7D20
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    2 MByte/sec Down, 250 KByte/sec Up
.... although in Linux I am not sure. You can even get confused if there is only 1 program.

Confuse ? look everything is on the desktop, and when you open something, at least you know where it gone open

pinguy1.jpg


even the start menu is well organize , where is the confusing part, even a quit button

menu1.jpg


And what to say about the easy access to all the documents, 1 click only

menu2.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 enterprise x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Pc-Quebec / Area 66
    CPU
    i7-3960X Extreme Edition
    Motherboard
    Rampage IV Extreme
    Memory
    Gskill 4x4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4 x HD 7970
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Screen Resolution
    2560*1600
    Hard Drives
    C:\Intel series 520 SSD , 250 GB
    D:\ WD 750 black with Intel 40gb SSD cache Intel RST
    E:\ WD 2TB Black
    PSU
    Corsair AX 1200
    Case
    TT Mozart TX
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Logitech G-15
    Other Info
    Windows 8 VM is install on his own SSD.
Just installed Pingy.

Boots up really fast. Fastest i have seen on this machine.

Looks great - most stuff is easy to find.

Start menu is well organised, too.

The average user can do all they need straight out of the box.

When I get the time - intend to find out more about it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
My Ubunto is a lot 'cleaner'.


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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs
I had installed Mint the other day - this seems a lot better.

Made an image of Mint partitions with Paragon HDM12 - can restore image or extract individual files , it appears to handle ext4 very well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Me it's the Conky I like most. I have all the information I need, even the servers and routers online, I just start to play with it I add new thing everyday

conky1.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 enterprise x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Pc-Quebec / Area 66
    CPU
    i7-3960X Extreme Edition
    Motherboard
    Rampage IV Extreme
    Memory
    Gskill 4x4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4 x HD 7970
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Screen Resolution
    2560*1600
    Hard Drives
    C:\Intel series 520 SSD , 250 GB
    D:\ WD 750 black with Intel 40gb SSD cache Intel RST
    E:\ WD 2TB Black
    PSU
    Corsair AX 1200
    Case
    TT Mozart TX
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Logitech G-15
    Other Info
    Windows 8 VM is install on his own SSD.
I wasn't able to install Pinguy yet because when it was installing, the partition manager kept crashing every time I tried.

I figure to use GParted to clear the HDD and then try again, when I feel up to it. I'm putting down some drinks right now so probably not the best of times lol.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86
    CPU
    P4 3.4 GHz HT
    Motherboard
    MSI-7211
    Memory
    OCZ 2 GB DDR @ 400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    HIS AGP HD 3850 Turbo Ice-Q
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer x223w
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar Black 1 TB Sata II, WD 400 GB Sata I, WD 120 GB Sata I
    PSU
    300W generic
    Case
    Cybertron
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keyboard 200, Dell RT7D20
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    2 MByte/sec Down, 250 KByte/sec Up
I'd highly recommend taking a look at Cinnamon It's still quite early in the development cycle but it's looking really good. It should be available in most major distribution repositories.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux
    CPU
    FX-8350
    Motherboard
    GA-990XA-UD3
    Memory
    16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Various
    PSU
    Corsair HX 850W
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian
    Cooling
    Thermalright
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    50/50
    Browser
    firefox
Windows 8 removes the Start button and instead depends on hot corners for essential functionality, and in the current beta there is little to tell users what to do...But to make the new operating system easier to understand for mouse and keyboard users, it will contain a tutorial to explain how things work.

This is like a neutron star made out of fail instead of neutrons.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
I'm already confused with linux. :sarc: Ubuntu, Linux mint, unix, and on and on and on for dozens of versions...how do people do this?! Oh wait, they don't, except for robots.

I'm totally fine with the start menu being gone, but gee, the START BUTTON?! I still feel ouch from time to time. I don't get why they must. It totally segregates Desktop with Start Screen. Yeah, ok, I'll give them the fact that they want to move away from the Desktop for tablet users, but the rest of the world still uses it. There are better solutions to integrate the two interfaces together in a harmonious way.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
I'm already confused with linux. :sarc: Ubuntu, Linux mint, unix, and on and on and on for dozens of versions...how do people do this?! Oh wait, they don't, except for robots.

And those who are able to do a little more than just press a big shiny button to get to Facebook :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux
    CPU
    FX-8350
    Motherboard
    GA-990XA-UD3
    Memory
    16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Various
    PSU
    Corsair HX 850W
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian
    Cooling
    Thermalright
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    50/50
    Browser
    firefox
I'm already confused with linux. :sarc: Ubuntu, Linux mint, unix, and on and on and on for dozens of versions...how do people do this?! Oh wait, they don't, except for robots.

And those who are able to do a little more than just press a big shiny button to get to Facebook :rolleyes:
And those who press a shiny big button to get to facebook do a little more than press a shiny big button to get to facebook.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
There are better solutions to integrate the two interfaces together in a harmonious way.

Yes they are better solutions, but Microsoft doesn’t want to improve the PC they want to eliminate it in few years. It’s funny how they return to the source, before the PC , everything was clients connected to servers. Microsoft is not only returning to the source, they want to be THE only source.

For the last 30 years, I enjoyed build my PC, if Microsoft wants to sell us a terminal that we have no control on it, then I'm gone play more with my train layout and just forget about computers.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 enterprise x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Pc-Quebec / Area 66
    CPU
    i7-3960X Extreme Edition
    Motherboard
    Rampage IV Extreme
    Memory
    Gskill 4x4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4 x HD 7970
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Screen Resolution
    2560*1600
    Hard Drives
    C:\Intel series 520 SSD , 250 GB
    D:\ WD 750 black with Intel 40gb SSD cache Intel RST
    E:\ WD 2TB Black
    PSU
    Corsair AX 1200
    Case
    TT Mozart TX
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Logitech G-15
    Other Info
    Windows 8 VM is install on his own SSD.
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