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  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I kind of wonder sometimes if "power users" feel that Windows 8 kills power using because the interface doesn't look like an MS-DOS screen. Take for example, the Recovery Environment, it's much more simpler to use than ever and yes, it looks dumbed down. But isn't that the whole point of software UI evolution, to make it easier to use?
    Unfortunately, this is the kind of comment I'd expect from someone who doesn't understand the command prompt or how it can be used. It's also a very Windows-centric point of view. That aside, it's not about the kind of user one happens to be or the interface available, it's about providing the right interface for the task at hand.

    There's nothing wrong with providing simple ways to perform complex tasks, however, in certain situations simplicity has to make way for more appropriate tools. Windows 8, just like it's predecessors, provides both environments. For those less technical users, there's Metro style, as well as familiar desktop applications. However, quite often, performing more complex tasks, is either not catered for within the GUI or where there is, it can be severely limited. In these situations, making use of the Command prompt or Powershell is the best alternative.

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  2. #32


    Adelaide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I kind of wonder sometimes if "power users" feel that Windows 8 kills power using because the interface doesn't look like an MS-DOS screen. Take for example, the Recovery Environment, it's much more simpler to use than ever and yes, it looks dumbed down. But isn't that the whole point of software UI evolution, to make it easier to use?
    It sounds like you're talking about Linux.

    I only rarely use the "Command Prompt" (normally only if my network is playing up).
    Unlike Linux, I can fix most problems using the GUI.

    The "Command Prompt" and "Powershell" are great for automating repetitive tasks (e.g. scripts) like replacing the meta data on thousands of mp3s.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I kind of wonder sometimes if "power users" feel that Windows 8 kills power using because the interface doesn't look like an MS-DOS screen. Take for example, the Recovery Environment, it's much more simpler to use than ever and yes, it looks dumbed down. But isn't that the whole point of software UI evolution, to make it easier to use?
    Lol...... software evolution? DOS ? , if at least you have use the words Command Prompt or Power Shell. You can now install a Windows server without GUI (Core) The new Windows 8 Server dont make exception, the beta version is installable with GUI or in Core version, they even have the Windows Server "8" Beta Virtual Machine Core (x64) , more and more servers will be without GUI and administered true the PowerShell interface.

    That's the evolution, more power to the one who know how to use it, but at a price, you have to be capable to use the PowerShell.
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince53 View Post
    I might not have explained myself properly, You CAN use a mouse and a keyboard with a touch screen. And just as no one in the world is manufacturing 32-bit hardware, the day will come when no one will be manufacturing non touch monitors.
    You're just reasserting what you asserted the first time without any elaboration. I replied that while a touch screen is useful for taking orders at McDonalds, it's not going to help me write this message or do anything else I do with my desktop computer. It would also be awkward to use at arm's length. Then there's the fingerprint smudge factor, which I tolerate on my iPod Touch only because it's so damn useful. Instead of just repeating that it's going to happen, try to explain why.
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  5. #35


    There could be a snobbery at work for 'power users'. Either they think a pleasant looking interface doesn't present the right image or that it makes it too easy for underlings to do things, undermining their perceived power knowledge!

    I still use a command window for some tasks as DOS commands are ingrained in me! It is particularly useful when searching for a file name. Windows search (Win 7) never feels reliable or trustworthy nor very fast and the indexing by default leaves out an awful lot. In DOS I know it is search where and what I want.
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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by thatmanbrian View Post
    There could be a snobbery at work for 'power users'. Either they think a pleasant looking interface doesn't present the right image or that it makes it too easy for underlings to do things, undermining their perceived power knowledge!


    It must have been hell for you working in IT, being surrounded by all those unimaginative snobs...
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  7. #37


    Ouch!

    Lehnerus said "wonder sometimes if "power users" feel that Windows 8 kills power using because the interface doesn't look like an MS-DOS screen. Take for example, the Recovery Environment, it's much more simpler to use than ever and yes, it looks dumbed down."
    So I commented from my own experience.
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  8. #38


    Adelaide
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatmanbrian View Post
    Ouch!

    Lehnerus said "wonder sometimes if "power users" feel that Windows 8 kills power using because the interface doesn't look like an MS-DOS screen. Take for example, the Recovery Environment, it's much more simpler to use than ever and yes, it looks dumbed down."
    So I commented from my own experience.
    That was Coke Robot, not me.

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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calico View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thatmanbrian View Post
    There could be a snobbery at work for 'power users'. Either they think a pleasant looking interface doesn't present the right image or that it makes it too easy for underlings to do things, undermining their perceived power knowledge!


    It must have been hell for you working in IT, being surrounded by all those unimaginative snobs...

    My problem with I.T isn't the I.T guys who usually are trying to do their jobs but with their managers who "pretend" they understand "the business" that they are supposed to be providing services for.

    Many times I've had problems in I.T / Business steering commitees when some scrobbity I.T manager who has never even SEEN so much as a screwdriver (they usually come from things like HR or Finanace) and then try and lecture a load of High Voltage Electricity Engineers on what they need to fix broken Pylon cables etc etc.

    The poor guys in I.T usuallly have an impossible job of delivering a system cobbled together by some Finance guys to some Engineering users who usually have some limited understanding of I.T from their college days -- and surprise surprise the system isn't fit for purpose.


    If you're an Engineer repairing a High Voltage line and you need to get 600 Metres of special HT purpose cable from stores you can't go round filling in 99 zillion cost and profit centres codes and cost per metre of this sort of stuff -- meanwhile you've got 20,000 people without power. !!!

    An extreme case --but been there --seen it and done it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Sorry got my quote source wrong but you get my drift!!
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