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Windows 8, I知 warming up to you

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    Good Lord. When I see that repair tool screen or almost anything else in Metro, I see this:

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    Good analogy! The obviously design for the Metro UI is touchscreen pc and mobile application and not too well received by the "point and click" crowd!

    As for the repair tools that works out great for the OEMs in the world with the full factory restore option or "Reset". The repair install option is also present being the "Refresh". But if you are looking to repair a startup issue, use a System Restore point, or even restore a full system image backup you keep continuing on to the Advanced options screen.

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    Of course neither that screen or the previous are seen when first clicking on the repair tools item not link under the Install Now button to arrive at...

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    Note that doesn't include the "Continue" or "Other OS" screen to add further to the confusion.

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  2. #12


    Since Microsoft have an official way to select whether IE10 opens as a Metro App or as a Desktop app, I bet that they will add this to the other Metro Apps. Apart from system maintenance, there is nothing in the Metro Apps I want for my PC so I ignore it.
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  3. #13


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    I kind of want to download Windows Server 8 and give a spin for that has THE most metro influenced design on the Desktop versus the client OS of 8....

    Speaking of totally related matters, I remember last year Microsoft had this addon for Office 2010 called the Clippy Game I think. Basically, it was the return of the hated Clippy, but it was a game that spanned the different programs of Office and taught you the basics of those programs so you know how to use them. I think something like this could totally work for Windows 8, except...no Clippy. HAHA! Maybe the sad face of the new BSOD could take you through Windows 8!
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    The differences between the Start screen's version of IE 10 and the icon pinned is simply seeing IE open in full screen or windowed mode. It's simply the same IE but two modes.

    The main idea of Metro is for one thing being touchscreen. With the success of 7 MS now has time to come out with a Touchscreen OS for pc realizing many won't be going with 8. But they can now offer a touchscreen version of Windows especially keeping Tablet PC and hand held devices like the Windows Phone 8 in mind.

    The gamble for anyone looking at upgrading to 8 will be first looking over the RC before 8 is final to see just what will be in store for the RTM to come a few months later! That will be the "maker" or the "breaker" as far as most desktop pc users are concerned.
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  5. #15


    NightHawk writes: "The main idea of Metro is for one thing being touchscreen. With the success of 7 MS now has time to come out with a Touchscreen OS for pc realizing many won't be going with 8."

    You might have something there. MS is already working on Windows 9. They might be getting consumers ready for the day when only touchscreens are manufactured.
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  6. #16


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    I shudder to the think of a day when all desktop monitors are touch-enabled. My present reaction to someone pointing at something on my monitor is to whack their hand with a ruler if they get too close. In any case, touch-enabled monitors don't seem to make a lot sense for most things. It's not going to help me write this message, for example.
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    Just like the onscreen keyboards several complaints about touchscreens being oversensitive where if you go to open one WE window you end up seeing 3 or 4 open along with it!

    MS must realize if they stray too far from the familiar desktop OS people will simply start looking at the alternatives. With the support for 7 extended until 2020 they must have figured this would be the time for offering a touchscreen version while the rest simply wait for 9, 10 to see what's new for the desktop while keeping 7 alive.

    Making 8 mainly for businesses with large sales teams and places like schools were onscreen presentations are more common would fit the onscreen OS scenario over what you would want for the desktop for the typical home user. Then you add in the mobile market competition as well to see where 8 would be mostly seen.
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  8. #18


    I don't see the problem. Metro for desktop users is just a sideline and as I said above, I ignore it mostly. As someone else pointed out a week ago, Metro has some potential for businesses where they can roll out a bespoke Start screen for all their in-house work and lock users out of the desktop and fiddling etc. The trouble is, businesses are notoriously risk averse and conservative and many still haven't migrated to Win 7 and will never catch up. As I used to work in corporate IT I know that behind all the bluster about compatibility and user training and all the other excuses, one reason for the reluctance to upgrade is simply that the IT bods tend to be unimaginitive and all for an easy life. Sorry if that insults anyone here but it is one reason I left!

    As I also said before, Win 8 CP is not set in stone and I'm sure we'll see changes during the coming months.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by thatmanbrian View Post
    I don't see the problem. Metro for desktop users is just a sideline and as I said above, I ignore it mostly. As someone else pointed out a week ago, Metro has some potential for businesses where they can roll out a bespoke Start screen for all their in-house work and lock users out of the desktop and fiddling etc.
    That's only going to work if they can also convert all of their applications to Metro style applications, which can then be 'locked down' with group policy, and that's just the start.

    The trouble is, businesses are notoriously risk averse and conservative and many still haven't migrated to Win 7 and will never catch up. As I used to work in corporate IT I know that behind all the bluster about compatibility and user training and all the other excuses,
    It's not really about compatability or user training, although those are very important considerations. The main reason most companies are reticent about upgrading is return on investment i.e., there has to be a significant business reason to do so.

    one reason for the reluctance to upgrade is simply that the IT bods tend to be unimaginitive and all for an easy life. Sorry if that insults anyone here but it is one reason I left!
    Obviously, I have no idea what role you had in your previous incarnation in "Corporate IT" but having spent thirty plus years, in various roles, within that very same environment, I can happily say my experience was the complete opposite. The only time people become unimaginative, is when there's no incentive for them to think otherwise.
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  10. #20


    I was an assistant systems manager in a major UK branch of a private bank and my experience was one of frustration I'm afraid. It was clearly the wrong environment for someone like me. I was full of ideas which were regularly squashed. Getting anything done in a large corporate machine was just so hard. But enough of that.

    As for Metro style applications, I suspect it won't be too long before a tweak is discovered that will allow them to be locked down and so on. Or MS will see the opportunity and offer it themselves. If MS can get desktop users to like at least parts of Metro, it will be a bonus for them I think.
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