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Windows 9: Much ado about little, given cloud shift

  1. #21


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Wow. Charms > Devices > Print is annoying?

    WinKey/P is annoying?

    File tab > Print is annoying?

    Hmmm.....
    HG, This is a good one.
    Hi there

    Can't understand why Win+P is annoying to switch monitor displays or why Print functions are "troubling". At times we DO (or most people) need some print out - We can't always use Mobile phones for this type of stuff - in any case for travelling these days most airlines haven't got round to "M-Tickets" yet (Mobile electronic ones) - you still need to print an e-ticket.

    I don't use the printer very often but I can't say that I can do 100% without it.

    I'm Glad to see though in the UK a number of Railway companies have introduced "M-Tickets" -- much easier than carrying paper tickets around.

    Most of these companies in the UK offer (or are about to offer) m-tickets.

    Train Companies - ATOC - Association of Train Operating Companies, National Rail

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Can't understand why Win+P is annoying to switch monitor displays or why Print functions are "troubling". At times we DO (or most people) need some print out - We can't always use Mobile phones for this type of stuff - in any case for travelling these days most airlines haven't got round to "M-Tickets" yet (Mobile electronic ones) - you still need to print an e-ticket.
    See post #20.
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  3. #23


    If I understand with a cloud based OS you wouldn;t be able to use you computer without an internet connection...
    That will be totaly impossible for me to use such a system.
    As for paying a yearly $20 subscription instead of $200 upfront, I'm all for it. But I doubt it will be that cheap.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    Windows 9 is the bridge between Microsoft's past of big bang releases and a licensing model to one focused on the cloud


    I really don't like that.

    Think enterprise for that one. They're not that foolish to go to a cloud based OS for consumers...yet. Think 15+ years on that one.
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  5. #25


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    The leaking water faucet has run dry with details on Windows 9....

    I can't wait to see what they come up with especially on the metro 2.0 side of things. It would be nice to see desktop improvements too, like new metro iconography and no more Aero! Ugh!

    It's been said that if you take Windows 9 next to Windows 8, you will be able to distinguish the two right off the bat. Seems dramatic there.
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  6. #26


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    First off, the Headline of the article is complete malarkey BS.
    It's a click magnet headline and trying to downplay Windows, still. Never ends.
    But what else should we expect from ZDNet?

    I think people get the idea of a Cloud OS confused.
    And I think a lot of pseudo-techjurnos like to fear monger the idea, or just completely get it wrong for whatever reason.
    Google tried pure CloudOS with ChromeBook and it failed miserably.

    The over all OS is not cloud based. it is locally installed on the hard drive still
    You are not running the OS over the internet like a Virtual Desktop Environment
    The system can be disconnected and still run many Software and Apps
    Office 365 is not a Cloud Office suite, but it has cloud features.
    But is fully functional off-line.

    Windows OS will be just as functional, except where App's and Live Tiles will require
    internet connectivity to update and get information.

    What they mean by subscription based is.....
    $99 a year for up to 3 or 5 different devices, along with X amount of OneDrive space.
    Just like Office 365 can be installed on 5 PC's or Mac's AND 5 Tablets or iPads.
    You get 60min of Skype a month and 15G of OneDrive Space per person.
    You have a central main account, then you can add others to the account and give them the ability to install office
    They each get the Skype Minutes and 15G OneDrive space that is all theirs.

    If I wanted to, I could sell you a license from my Office 365 Account for however much I wanted, but generally $10.
    If you fail to pay me, I uninstall office from your system and delete your name and you lose access to Office, Skype and OneDrive.
    If I am able to use up all 10 installs that I have,, it's $10 a year per system or per person.
    It's a hell of a deal. And it's full blown Office 2013, everything.

    So, in the long run it is cheaper for us (the consumer) and MS actually does make more money.

    However, MS will need to get on the ball about how often they update.
    Security updates would most likely come out the same on Patch Tuesdays.
    Upgrades (Feature additions/changes) should come about every 6 months.

    Anyway, I will digress here.

    Windows 9 will be much ado about a lot, and will be a big deal.
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    First off, the Headline of the article is complete malarkey BS.
    It's a click magnet headline and trying to downplay Windows, still. Never ends.
    But what else should we expect from ZDNet?

    I think people get the idea of a Cloud OS confused.
    And I think a lot of pseudo-techjurnos like to fear monger the idea, or just completely get it wrong for whatever reason.
    Google tried pure CloudOS with ChromeBook and it failed miserably.

    The over all OS is not cloud based. it is locally installed on the hard drive still
    You are not running the OS over the internet like a Virtual Desktop Environment
    The system can be disconnected and still run many Software and Apps
    Office 365 is not a Cloud Office suite, but it has cloud features.
    But is fully functional off-line.

    Windows OS will be just as functional, except where App's and Live Tiles will require
    internet connectivity to update and get information.

    What they mean by subscription based is.....
    $99 a year for up to 3 or 5 different devices, along with X amount of OneDrive space.
    Just like Office 365 can be installed on 5 PC's or Mac's AND 5 Tablets or iPads.
    You get 60min of Skype a month and 15G of OneDrive Space per person.
    You have a central main account, then you can add others to the account and give them the ability to install office
    They each get the Skype Minutes and 15G OneDrive space that is all theirs.

    If I wanted to, I could sell you a license from my Office 365 Account for however much I wanted, but generally $10.
    If you fail to pay me, I uninstall office from your system and delete your name and you lose access to Office, Skype and OneDrive.
    If I am able to use up all 10 installs that I have,, it's $10 a year per system or per person.
    It's a hell of a deal. And it's full blown Office 2013, everything.

    So, in the long run it is cheaper for us (the consumer) and MS actually does make more money.

    However, MS will need to get on the ball about how often they update.
    Security updates would most likely come out the same on Patch Tuesdays.
    Upgrades (Feature additions/changes) should come about every 6 months.

    Anyway, I will digress here.

    Windows 9 will be much ado about a lot, and will be a big deal.
    I guess, I am a little confused by your post. I feel the author of the article was pretty spot on.

    He said Windows 9 (short term) was needed to put Windows 8 to bed, but felt long term that Windows 10 is Microsoft's aim, to usher in a subscription based OS, focused, in conjunction with could services. At least that is how I read it.

    Personally, I don't think Windows 9 will bring much to the table, other than menu eye candy, plus Cortana. Certainly not anything earth shattering, unique or new. Perhaps I will be wrong, unless all of it's versions would be free, now that would turn a few heads.
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  8. #28


    Thank you Tepid for your complete understanding about how a subscription based model for Windows would work.

    I figured with office 365 out there as an example, they would get it. But apparently not.
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  9. #29


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    So, in the long run it is cheaper for us (the consumer) and MS actually does make more money.
    I guess that is true if you have multiple devices. But what about the many users that have only e.g. 1 laptop.
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  10. #30


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    So, in the long run it is cheaper for us (the consumer) and MS actually does make more money.
    I guess that is true if you have multiple devices. But what about the many users that have only e.g. 1 laptop.
    Then simply purchase it outright or use the subscription for as long as you want. So far as I know a subscription is not a time contract. Simply end it by not renewing and if desired obtain another with a new edition release.

    I stand corrected on Office 365. I thought it was a cloud based edition. I see it's not. It's more of a cloud-centric edition.
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