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  1. #51


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo
    OUTLOOK EXPRESS which disappeared with Windows XP
    It became Windows Mail and it's pretty much the same concept.
    CountMike: That's the exact opposite of my experience, but that's fine. Of course a mail client depends on the volume of useless datas spammers send to you (like companies sending their entire pdf catalog twice a week) but with a quiet stiff e-mail blocker list, I avoid most of it.
    Mac, for the rare case I used it, looked very similar in use to Windows. If you are a good Windows geek, jumping head first into Mac shouldn't be a problem.
    I don't get it, what's the difference if i read same message in same gmail account thru browser or thru Outlook ?. Let's say I read the message about this thread thru FF, same message would be in Outlook but would have to be downloaded to my disk first.

    Hi there @Count Mike

    Haven't you ever heard of IMAP so you can leave stuff on the server -- actually IMAP is good too as it easily integrates with mail on mobile phones too. Imap also means you can copy stuff to local files on SEVERAL computers too if you use more than one -- quite handy for Work and home machines accessing same email servers.

    You can then move / copy stuff to local folders if you want to use mail off line.


    With POP3 if you copy stuff to a local machine that's it gone from the server and therefore not accessible to other machines.


    Webmail clients as I pointed out are a big security risk for businesses since you

    a) have to use a browser,
    b) need uncontrolled access to the Internet depending on who your email client is with and
    c) by passes all the company security protocols by not using their email servers -- apart from the hideous performance of these clients and their usual pages of ads as well.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #52


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Thanks for that info pparks1 and basher.

    I have to use a Mac again today (hopefully I'll remember these tips).

    The "Close" button not closing items is really intuitive.
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  3. #53


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I got a 10" Windows 8.1 with a quad core, SSD, HDMI, USB3, with 11hours battery life, great touchpad and 2lbs for $329. Who needs Apple.
    The forum's greatest shopper!
    Aw yeah!
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  4. #54


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I got a 10" Windows 8.1 with a quad core, SSD, HDMI, USB3, with 11hours battery life, great touchpad and 2lbs for $329. Who needs Apple.
    What exactly are you using?
    If I can speak for whs, I think he has the ASUS T100 Transformer Book. I've had the experience of deploying a custom Windows image onto that little tablet, it's quite a lovely little device.

    Intel quad core Atom processor, 64 gig SSD, USB 3, I think microSD, HDMI output, and certain models of the Transformer have an option for a 500 gig hard drive in the keyboard dock. A friend of mine got the T100 on sale for about $230. Even the touchpad and its software are quite excellent on it as well. I do enjoy ASUS' touchpad driver software as it really changes up the Windows 8 experience a touch.

    Who needs apple indeed?
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    ^ If that IS what he has, the internal storage is not SSD. It's EMMC flash memory.

    It's a solid little device for $329...but it's not a performance oriented machine in any way. It's a quad core atom, only has 2GB of RAM, the screen is only 1386x768, and as stated above it's not SSD, but rather EMMC...which clocks in around the same speed as mechanical drives as far as throughput, but faster access to files.

    As is the case, in many cases, we aren't comparing the same things.
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  6. #56


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    ^ If that IS what he has, the internal storage is not SSD. It's EMMC flash memory.

    It's a solid little device for $329...but it's not a performance oriented machine in any way. It's a quad core atom, only has 2GB of RAM, the screen is only 1386x768, and as stated above it's not SSD, but rather EMMC...which clocks in around the same speed as mechanical drives as far as throughput, but faster access to files.

    As is the case, in many cases, we aren't comparing the same things.
    I believe it's what whs has, or something in the same nature because I remember it is an ASUS Transformer book.

    But yes, different devices, different usages, different things. It's definitely not a performance device, but that's not its intended use; much like how a mac is typically an expensive facebook machine....
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  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It was actually a device that the wife wanted for travel. She did not want to have to learn Android (we already had a Nexus 7) and she got immediately used to 8.1.
    Sounds like you married a smart woman there, whs! And a W8 fangurl as well!

    At first I had my doubts about the small 10" keyboard because she is a professional typist typing at high speed - quite the opposite to my 2 finger eagle search typing. But after a couple of days she mastered that too.
    One of the things I regretted in life is dropping out of typing class a few weeks in as a high school freshman thinking I'd never use it. "That's secretarial sissy stuff!" Of course that was before the PC and liberation movements. Boy, was I wrong! Now I'm what I call a chicken typist pecking with two fingers on the keyboard.

    Now she is also often using it at the kitchen table at home. The long battery life sure helps.
    Is this so she leaves you alone longer?

    I did not think I could use it because of my 40% eye vision and the small screen. But in reality I can use it quite well - with my reading glasses.
    Must have high rez? Which model is it? I really enjoy my Lumia 1520 @ 1080x1920.

    BTW, how is that Lumia working out for you? Did you get the 8.1 update yet?
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  8. #58


    Never had an Apple product, so I wouldn't know, but a couple of new members came on claiming that W8.x is similar in a lot of ways. I kind of grasped what they explained.

    Not sure about the cost of iStuff, but I do know that's their main corporate revenue. With Google it's advertising via surfing data collection. MS seems to be more diversified and becoming more so.
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  9. #59


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It was actually a device that the wife wanted for travel. She did not want to have to learn Android (we already had a Nexus 7) and she got immediately used to 8.1.
    Sounds like you married a smart woman there, whs! And a W8 fangurl as well!

    At first I had my doubts about the small 10" keyboard because she is a professional typist typing at high speed - quite the opposite to my 2 finger eagle search typing. But after a couple of days she mastered that too.
    One of the things I regretted in life is dropping out of typing class a few weeks in as a high school freshman thinking I'd never use it. "That's secretarial sissy stuff!" Of course that was before the PC and liberation movements. Boy, was I wrong! Now I'm what I call a chicken typist pecking with two fingers on the keyboard.

    Now she is also often using it at the kitchen table at home. The long battery life sure helps.
    Is this so she leaves you alone longer?

    I did not think I could use it because of my 40% eye vision and the small screen. But in reality I can use it quite well - with my reading glasses.
    Must have high rez? Which model is it? I really enjoy my Lumia 1520 @ 1080x1920.

    BTW, how is that Lumia working out for you? Did you get the 8.1 update yet?
    Hi there

    After over 30 years of using computers I finally decided to take the plunge and go on a Typing course. I was a Two Finger Eyes on the Keyboard guy all those years -- in spite of the fact I can (according to friends|) play the Piano decently.

    Boy was that the most difficult course I've ever been on -- including those on some sophisticated Engineering topics - but believe it or not -- it was well worth it.

    We had some standard QWERTY keyboards which didn't have letters on the keys but colours - but after a couple of lessons it started to become OK. I was the OLDEST by far in the class but some of the younger women made it all worth while !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Lol, Jim! I may just have to do the same.
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