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Microsoft Kills Update 2 and Patch Tuesday

  1. #51


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Just a spoiled brat that adolescent girls think is cool. Trying to sing but no talent at all. Anyway real music is far removed from him. Besides R&R, classic music and any other real music, my most loved tune is in the middle of working factory.
    who has made more money in a couple of years than you will make in several lifetimes. A commentary on our times, I guess.

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  2. #52


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there

    I think the answer is fairly easy.

    At a technical level a desktop app even if it's updating is essentially operating in "Background mode" once the focus is on another app. A metro app can be considered as a "Foreground app" which is continuously and visibly updating itself whether the focus is on the app or not - so in effect working a bit like the old Vista Gadgets - but a lot more sophisticated and secure.

    A big difference between Metro and desktop is that with a desktop application you are CONTINUOUSLY interacting with it -- an EXCEL spread sheet for example or even Web browsing - or writing on Forums (like this one) !! whereas a Metro app starts and should just be updating itself with almost or NO user interaction. Things like the Mail app should NOT IMO be a Metro app.

    For example a Stock Market dynamic app - where it's updating automatically on part of your desktop, or a weather or sport app. Yes you could do this with a "Classic" desktop app but the Metro feature would enable these to be written fairly easily and work on phones too - a decent set of "Calls" or interfaces or whatever the coders call these - could make it really easy to develop these with a few mouse clicks and using Visual tools rather than going through what I would imagine to be a laborious process for writing full blown Windows programs.

    A Metro app would just start - possibly with a prompt e.g I want the Real Time Market graph of MSFT stock price or the Weather for London, Sydney and Los Angeles. The app would then just continuously run updating without any interaction from the user until you stopped it. It would be essentially a single task rather than a complex program like photoshop where you are interacting with the program all the time

    Most media playing programs IMO would work better as a Metro app too -- once the movie has started you just let it run until it finishes -- but without a re-sizeable option - especially on a large screen the Metro apps have hobbled themselves in the foot.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Thanks for the response

    I do agree with you on using this for the widget idea and having them there to update info and make it available to read immediately, that would be a nice feature

    Apart from that I don't see the appeal in metro apps on the desktop

    From what I have read MS are creating metro versions of the office apps, on the current metro screen I would happily use these, but put me on the desktop only and I would use the current apps, wouldn't even consider the metro version of office

    I know I am an odd one in liking metro apps/start screen as it is now and should perhaps feel to admit it, but apart from what you say about reading/viewing content I don't see any appeal in desktop metro apps

    Hopefully MS will surprise me and I will like what they are doing when I see more about it

    Cheers
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  3. #53


    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Happy 33rd birthday to PC as we know and love(hate)it.
    On August 12, 1981, IBM released Model 5150, an 8088 @ 4.77 MHz and whooping 16 KB of RAM.
    The company I worked for bought it shortly after and I had to assemble it and put it to work.


    The company I worked for bought one of these, I think the price at the time was like $3000.00 US dollars, and I remember the sales rep saying "yeah, it has 16Kbytes of ram, you will never use up that much.

    I also, remember we all stood around, turned it on, and it booted to a blank screen (DOS prompt) with the word "OK", we all looked at each other and said "sooo.... what do we do now?"

    Ahhh, the good ole days
    Thanks for sharing that tidbit Count! I turned 30 that year and remember reading about it, but didn't get my first computer until 1991 and then a serious one in 1997.

    Ahhh, yes, the good ole days, RBS! Who would ever think it would lead to all that we have today? It actually ultra revolutionized our would and societies.

    While we're reminiscing, perhaps you two and others would like to share here: Personal Computer Related Memories - I Remember:

    Happy Birthday to the IBM compatible PC!
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  4. #54


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Happy 33rd birthday to PC as we know and love(hate)it.
    On August 12, 1981, IBM released Model 5150, an 8088 @ 4.77 MHz and whooping 16 KB of RAM.
    The company I worked for bought it shortly after and I had to assemble it and put it to work.


    The company I worked for bought one of these, I think the price at the time was like $3000.00 US dollars, and I remember the sales rep saying "yeah, it has 16Kbytes of ram, you will never use up that much.

    I also, remember we all stood around, turned it on, and it booted to a blank screen (DOS prompt) with the word "OK", we all looked at each other and said "sooo.... what do we do now?"

    Ahhh, the good ole days
    Thanks for sharing that tidbit Count! I turned 30 that year and remember reading about it, but didn't get my first computer until 1991 and then a serious one in 1997.

    Ahhh, yes, the good ole days, RBS! Who would ever think it would lead to all that we have today? It actually ultra revolutionized our would and societies.

    While we're reminiscing, perhaps you two and others would like to share here: Personal Computer Related Memories - I Remember:

    Happy Birthday to the IBM compatible PC!
    Hey Hypsie, Thanks for posting about that old thread, some people paralleled my experiences with computers and electronics so I'll try to remember some of the stuff and post there.
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  5. #55


    You're welcome, Count. I feel it's a good way to get to know members. History for the younger, although they have their story too.
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  6. #56


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    You're welcome, Count. I feel it's a good way to get to know members. History for the younger, although they have their story too.
    Have a peek at that thread, I just posted some of my experiences.
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  7. #57


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    What do you mean "kills" ?? Tehn why some sites posted to download this as Update 2 ???? http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...975719-x64.msu
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  8. #58


    Quote Originally Posted by basher View Post
    What do you mean "kills" ?? Tehn why some sites posted to download this as Update 2 ???? http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...975719-x64.msu
    What "some sites" call it is not important. This latest update is nowhere as extensive as planned before, it's not even required for further updates like update 1 was. That's why it should not be called "Update 2" and therefore it's killed dead.
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  9. #59


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by basher View Post
    What do you mean "kills" ?? Tehn why some sites posted to download this as Update 2 ???? http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...975719-x64.msu
    What "some sites" call it is not important. This latest update is nowhere as extensive as planned before, it's not even required for further updates like update 1 was. That's why it should not be called "Update 2" and therefore it's killed dead.
    975719 is just a small piece of what was planned for update 2, it is not update 2. Microsoft killed the plan for one big second update and decided to do a series of smaller individual updates. It's hard to know what was going to be in the proposed update 2 but it sounds like some of the planned features have been postponed or even dropped completely. Only Microsoft knows and at the moment they aren't telling.
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  10. #60


    What ???? M$ afraid somebody might have better idea than them ???
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