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    Windows 'Threshold': More on plan to win over Windows 7...


    Windows "Threshold," the next major version of Microsoft's Windows operating system due to hit around the spring of 2015, is coming into focus.

    And not too surprisingly, one of the Microsoft Operating Systems Group's main goals in designing and developing the coming operating system (OS) release -- which may or may not ultimately be branded as "Windows 9" -- is to try to make it more palatable to hold-out Windows 7 users.

    In order to do this, Microsoft is working on including in Threshold lots of new features specifically aimed at "desktop" users, meaning those who interact primarily with their Windows computing device from a desktop or laptop PC with mouse/keyboard and optional touch.

    With Windows 8.1 Update, Microsoft officials designed Windows around a set of profiles based on the hardware specifications of the devices in use. Certain devices running Windows 8.1 Update include Power and Search buttons on the Metro-style Start screen; others don't. Some of those running Windows 8.1 Update have their machines start up by default in the Desktop/Win32 legacy environment, while others on touch/mobile-first devices start up in the Metro-Style Start Menu by default.

    According to my sources, Microsoft will continue in this vein with Windows Threshold. The Threshold OS will look and work differently based on hardware type.
    Read more: Windows 'Threshold': More on Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users | ZDNet

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    Thanks for posting this, Shawn.

    Mary Jo's sources are usually reliable, so it looks as though I stand corrected in that the Desktop app will remain. Looks like the "7ers" are voting with their wallet and holding out. More time to develop more Modern/Metro apps in the mean time. Office suite also.
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    Meh, as long as the Start Screen remains intact, that's all I care about and will continue on deploying. It is a good idea though to have a start menu type UI for old xp and 7 users. Apparently ripping off the bandage too quickly to transition off to something totally new didn't sit to well with people especially when there wasn't any proper way of showing users how to ACTUALLY use Windows 8.
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    You heard it here first. It won't happen b/c seven ate/eats nine (7, 8, 9)! There are unseen forces at work in the universe... They will have to name 9 something else other than 9 to stand a chance of not being "gobbled" up by 7's terminology... figuratively speaking! :P

    (P.S.: Other examples of unseen forces at work in the universe: One of the greatest directors of our time goes by the last name of Camer[a]on...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatup View Post
    You heard it here first. It won't happen b/c seven ate/eats nine (7, 8, 9)! There are unseen forces at work in the universe... They will have to name 9 something else other than 9 to stand a chance of not being "gobbled" up by 7's terminology... figuratively speaking! :P

    (P.S.: Other examples of unseen forces at work in the universe: One of the greatest directors of our time goes by the last name of Camer[a]on...)
    Speaking of numerology, in biblical numerology the number 8 represents the start of a new series.

    Windows 8 introduced a radically new and different UI that carries over onto several platforms and effectively shaped the One Microsoft today.

    It is a start of a new series indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eatup View Post
    You heard it here first. It won't happen b/c seven ate/eats nine (7, 8, 9)! There are unseen forces at work in the universe... They will have to name 9 something else other than 9 to stand a chance of not being "gobbled" up by 7's terminology... figuratively speaking! :P

    (P.S.: Other examples of unseen forces at work in the universe: One of the greatest directors of our time goes by the last name of Camer[a]on...)
    Speaking of numerology, in biblical numerology the number 8 represents the start of a new series.

    Windows 8 introduced a radically new and different UI that carries over onto several platforms and effectively shaped the One Microsoft today.

    It is a start of a new series indeed.
    Speaking of Biblical numerology... 7 is God's number (how dare 9 [or even 8] try to best 7!) 12 is the number of the Son of God (aka Jesus, aka Pisces/Jesus' fish symbol is the 12th Zodiac sign). I believe that many things in life are "pre-ordained" sort to speak. As such, I predict Microsoft will return to its glory days again starting with Windows 12 (the Son-of-God Windows version)... This is b/c if you think 8 is bad, just watch the chaos that will ensue in X, XI... Meanwhile, 7 is/will be the best version (preceding XP), until 12 comes along...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Meh, as long as the Start Screen remains intact, that's all I care about and will continue on deploying. It is a good idea though to have a start menu type UI for old xp and 7 users. Apparently ripping off the bandage too quickly to transition off to something totally new didn't sit to well with people especially when there wasn't any proper way of showing users how to ACTUALLY use Windows 8.

    Mary Jo says:
    "The Desktop/laptop SKU of Threshold will include, as previously rumored, the Mini-Start menu — a new version of the traditional Microsoft Start menu, an early concept of which Microsoft showed off at the company's Build developers conference in April. It also will include the ability to run Metro-Style/Windows Store apps in windows on the Desktop. Will it turn off completely the Metro-Style Start screen with its live-tile interface, as Neowin is reporting, and make the tiled Start Menu a toggleable option from the Mini Start menu? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.
    (Update: It's worth pointing out the Mini Start menu is expected to be customizable. Users will be able to include Metro-Style apps or remove all Metro Style apps/tiles from the menu so that only Desktop apps are included in the Mini Start menu — either as tiles or in list form)"
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    "Microsoft may opt to not make a big deal out of Windows 8.1 Update 2 and just push it out quietly as part of the set of August patches - August 12, Tuesday. There may be some UI adjustments and tweaks, but nothing hugely noticeable. Since Microsoft officials decided earlier this year to make the Mini Start Menu part of Threshold instead of Update 2, there's not a whole lot of new features of note coming in Update 2"
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    In my opinion, the best one is:
    "Windows Threshold is looking like it could be free to all Windows 8.1 Update, and maybe even Windows 7 Service Pack 1, users."


    Oh boy....that's good news!
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    Hi there

    Since installing Windows 8.1 I haven't seen any need apart from running ONE application (SAP GUI) to use Windows 7 any more. W7 looks increasingly dated each time I use it.

    The latest update - windows 8.1 update 1 seems to have no trouble with the SAP GUI even though it's "not officially supported" yet by SAP - due to be so soon so bye bye W7.

    Whether you need a traditional desktop or you want to use touch I can't see ANY problem with W8.1 update 1.

    I just hope Ms don't go overboard with "Threshold" Running decent Metro apps from the desktop would be OK IF they were properly re-sizeable -- not in fixed 1/2, 1/4 etc screen sizes -- a huge waste on a large monitor. I'd also like these re-sizeable windows TO BE BORDERLESS -- no titles.

    I'd also like OFFICE apps to be borderless too (but re-sizeable windows) -- with a right mouse click to access context menus etc.

    Some small live tiles (aka Vista's gadgets) might also be nice. As to a start menu I really can't be bothered with that issue any more.

    If Ms DO bring back a start menu I can see all sorts of people working on "Hiding it" or disabling it -- now that would be a turn round for the book. !!

    I'm not sure I'd want to continually switch from desktop to metro mode either - that could be a bit irritating - even with a lightning fast machine. Set the basic environment either at install or at boot time but allow both modes of operation without having to completely re-load the environment.

    Also isn't it about time to integrate the browser with the standard file explorer (you can use IE to browse local files anyway). Seems silly to have TWO programs which are essentially doing the same thing.

    I'm still however using XP in a VM as I have some hardware that won't run on anything else and I can't replace very easily - so it looks like good old XP has outlasted my W7 system. !!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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