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Windows 'Threshold': More on plan to win over Windows 7...

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    In my opinion, the best one is:
    "Windows Threshold is looking like it could be free to all Windows 8.1 Update, and maybe even Windows 7 Service Pack 1, users."


    Oh boy....that's good news!

    LOL.

    It is clear vast numbers of consumers are staying away from 8x, because they do not like the online integration/metro rubbish.

    Governments are also staying away , because they do not like the online integration/metro rubbish.

    What is the problem with 8x, then?

    MS next attempt will include the online/metro stuff but it will be more subtle, and anything they can think of to get consumers off win7. Including free "upgrade" offers, and a variety of attempts to make it difficult for consumers to get/use win7.

    Be fascinating to see how they get on with these manipulation efforts.

    I hear they are (allegedly) going to make metro go away in enterprise version. No such blessed relief on the horizon for consumers, though.


    yeaa... if MS really wanna get ahead and reach the wider business class or even government organisations, i think getting off the metro apps and bringing in more of win 7 with many more simple enough features yet brilliant ones would be the key & it may be seen only in enterprise edition i suppose.

    but for end user consumers i don't think win 8.1 type features including metro apps with necessary desktop features is something that harms... it's actually a path breaking innovation. only thing.. it takes some time to get accustomed to it. bringing up customised start menu is a good option though.


    Visruth

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by RBS View Post
    I seriously doubt 9 will be the panacea everyone expects. I suspect it will be heavy into promoting Bing and Microsoft's cloud services and try to rope consumers into a monthly subscription plan. It seems as though productivity is a mute cause with the company's profit only concept.


    All I read about are cosmetic changes, nothing else substantial, the app store will not offer anything new.

    If I have 7 and 8 why would I even need 9?
    if that's the plan... I'm better off with win 8.1 upd 1/2. will have to wait for reviews n critics convince me that 'I'll regret in not having win 9'.

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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by visruth View Post
    In my opinion, the best one is:
    "Windows Threshold is looking like it could be free to all Windows 8.1 Update, and maybe even Windows 7 Service Pack 1, users."


    Oh boy....that's good news!
    That's the first I've heard about being free to Windows 7 SP1 users. That will likely make some people happy. Those that paid to upgrade to 8.0 or 8.1 might be a bit peeved though.
    if there's nothing fascinating about '9', even free upgrade won't do the job for me.... win 8.1 upd 1/2 is much better than win 8.1. that's more than enough for me..

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  4. #24


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    The other thing I'm excited about with Windows 9 is that everywhere that's been quoting these rumors all report that if you look at 9 to 8.1.1, you WILL KNOW which is which right off the bat. That's going to be quite interesting.

    But the thing I am expecting them to screw up is the Desktop UI design. Why in the world they thought keeping Aero styling and continuing it, all but flattening down three elements of it is a good idea? It's not. Mixing Aero icons and metro icons is horrendous looking, one has all these drop shadows, faux lighting effects, gloss, and 3D perspectives all while at the same time next to metro iconography that's typically just a white flat icon with that tile's main color. So the obvious is the now just keep what's going on the same and mush them RIGHT next to each other on a start menu. It's just horrid to look at.

    I mean, the Windows Phone team isn't as big as the Windows team, but yet when they rebuilt Windows Mobile 6 over to Windows Phone 7, they redid EVERYTHING from the ground up. They made all these new iconography sets for use in the UI and left like four old icons at initial launch. I would just wish the Windows group now gets it together and does that.

    Keep things freaking consistent. Gosh.
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  5. #25


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    I'm thinking the no Metro option in the Enterprise edition is more for the IT guy than the end user. No none work related activities during working hours.
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  6. #26


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I'm thinking the no Metro option in the Enterprise edition is more for the IT guy than the end user. No none work related activities during working hours.
    Yeah, that must have been a toughie for the board considering Enterprise was specifically given sideloading functionality...anyway hope they finally scrap Sinovsky's ill-conceived hybrid philosophy.
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I'm thinking the no Metro option in the Enterprise edition is more for the IT guy than the end user. No none work related activities during working hours.
    Yeah, that must have been a toughie for the board considering Enterprise was specifically given sideloading functionality...anyway hope they finally scrap Sinovsky's ill-conceived hybrid philosophy.
    The higher ups will likely get the use of the Metro Apps. It'll be the grunts in the cubicles that get locked out. I Don't know, obviously some company or companies asked for this functionality, why, who knows?
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The other thing I'm excited about with Windows 9 is that everywhere that's been quoting these rumors all report that if you look at 9 to 8.1.1, you WILL KNOW which is which right off the bat. That's going to be quite interesting.

    But the thing I am expecting them to screw up is the Desktop UI design. Why in the world they thought keeping Aero styling and continuing it, all but flattening down three elements of it is a good idea? It's not. Mixing Aero icons and metro icons is horrendous looking, one has all these drop shadows, faux lighting effects, gloss, and 3D perspectives all while at the same time next to metro iconography that's typically just a white flat icon with that tile's main color. So the obvious is the now just keep what's going on the same and mush them RIGHT next to each other on a start menu. It's just horrid to look at.

    I mean, the Windows Phone team isn't as big as the Windows team, but yet when they rebuilt Windows Mobile 6 over to Windows Phone 7, they redid EVERYTHING from the ground up. They made all these new iconography sets for use in the UI and left like four old icons at initial launch. I would just wish the Windows group now gets it together and does that.

    Keep things freaking consistent. Gosh.
    yea... metro app loaded start menu along side aero icons & shadows will be just like watching Federer play Nadal in grand slam!
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  9. #29


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    My understanding is they are now one group under Terry Myerson. It wasn't this way before the restructuring. I'm sure we can expect a bit more consistency moving forward, but ain't going to happen overnight.
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  10. #30


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    The higher ups will likely get the use of the Metro Apps


    What on earth would they want that for? Unless they have gone into their second childhood. Perhaps you mean like an executive toy, the little swinging balls thing springs to mind.

    Cashback Newtons Cradle Executive Desktop Toy Science Museum by Bedroom
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