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Here's what's wrong with Windows 8

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    Here's what's wrong with Windows 8


    Here's what's wrong with Windows 8


    By Adrian Kingsley-Hughes
    March 12, 2012, 11:00am PDT


    Summary: Windows 8 is a massive gamble for Microsoft, and right now I can see the potential for it to fail harder than Windows Vista did.


    Iíve been using the Windows 8 Consumer Preview since its release back at the end of February, and having used it extensively on a number of several physical and virtual systems, I can now put my finger on what I think is wrong with Microsoftís latest incarnation of Windows.


    It might not say the word Ďbetaí anywhere on this release, but this Consumer Preview is still pre-release software, and as such there will be bugs and features that are not yet fixed in stone.


    Letís take a tour of where I think Microsoft has gone wrong with Windows 8, starting with the obvious.


    Too much emphasis on touch



    I know Iíve ranted about this before, but thatís not going to stop me from ranting about it again.


    I still canít fathom out why Microsoft is pushing a touch-based operating user interface onto systems that people are going to be driving with a keyboard and mouse, which I estimate will make up at least 90 percent if not more of Windows 8 users over the lifespan of the operating system. It feels like change for the sake of change and nothing else.


    It feels clumsy and awkward and, as far as I can tell, offers no benefit the traditional PC user. By now, Iíve used Windows 8 enough to be confident enough to say that the new interface is far less efficient to use with a mouse than the Classic interface.


    But it gets worse. The more you use the Windows 8 Consumer Preview, the more you get the feel that the concessions that Microsoft have made to those using a keyboard and mouse are poor afterthoughts that feel awkward and clumsy to use. Thereís a tremendous lack of consistency in the operating system that really bothers me.



    Clashing user interfaces



    Another problem I have with Windows 8 is how readily Microsoft flips users between the Classic and Metro user interfaces whenever the developers havenít managed to create a consistent user interface. I find it utterly crazy that I can go from clicking on a tile on the Metro Start Screen and then be unceremoniously dumped into things like a Classic Control Panel applet or Windows Explorer.


    Bolting on a new user interface is one thing, but when that user interface is incomplete, it makes you question the value of having it in the first place.


    It gets worse. While Microsoft has ribbonized much of the Classic user interface, these Ribbon menus are still packed with small user elements and fiddly to use with a mouse, and Iím sure that they will be even fiddlier, if not impossible to use, when driven with a finger. The ribbon menus werenít developed with touch in mind, but it seems that Microsoft has decided to adopt it as a cheap alternative to spreading the Metro user interface across the whole of Windows 8, and it seems like a really bad idea.

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    Good article.
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    Hmm, interesting.

    I don't really think the touch emphasis on Start Screen is something that is so terrible on mouse and keyboard, in fact, a mouse and keyboard work fine with the Start Screen.

    I have to agree on the clashing interfaces. To me, I think parts of the metro design mask elements of the Desktop, and it gets a little annoying from time to time. As it stands, the Desktop probably isn't complete design-wise. I base this off how Microsoft has redesigned the Task Manager, Help and Support, Windows Server 8, and the fact they're redesigning new software to have the metro look and feel to them. Hopefully, just hopefully, Desktop and Start Screen can live in harmony.
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    Spot on
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    I found this article sums things up very accurately on how most users will stumble onto things only by trial and error over a lengthy period of time! When following one report's info on pressing the Windows key + Shift I combination to bring all settings I had to scroll a mile over to the right to go over each item while looking for one thing in particular.

    The Metro UI sadly needs a guide map for directions in order to find where things are hidden. Hopefully the RTM if not the CP2 equal to Release Candidate if there is to be one will see an easier approach to it. If MS strays too far away from an all too familiar desktop 8 could easily become a flop!

    Right now we are seeing the CP=beta but won't help if the RTM is still too much "Mystery Meat" as the author there points out as being too involved to find your way around. The "Mystery" part will outweigh the incorporation of new themes, new features, and even the incorporation of the MS Security Essentials renamed Windows Defender of all things added into the version to come.

    That would be MS SE 2 as the first security test without any prompting for an av program detected and removed a trojan! Some old XP downloads IDed as buggy were kept onhand for test purposes and revealed the CP does have an av included in it. There is no more Windows Defender but the SE for 8 being seen. Will the retail finish also see the Security Essentials included or was this just to allow testing without requiring a separate av program due to possible compatibility issues?
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    Just wanted to chime in here that God Mode still works on CP x86. I don't have x64 to test. Simply make a new folder on the desktop and name it this:

    GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}
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    Looks like the Control Panel icon for that one! Already have the CP shortcut pinned on the taskbar there. Control Panel All Tasks List Shortcut - Windows 7 Forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Looks like the Control Panel icon for that one! Already have the CP shortcut pinned on the taskbar there. Control Panel All Tasks List Shortcut - Windows 7 Forums
    Yep, sure is. Same key and everything. Awesome!
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    I rebooted into the CP long enough to grab a screen of that plus the new shortcut itself which could still be pinned to the taskbar by the way.

    Click image for larger version

    In 7 I don't even need a shortcut pinned since the C.Panel is present in every Windows Explorer(or Computer) window I open! I simply scroll down through all the drives and click the All Control Panel Items.

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    Ya, I personally believe all the Metro complaints will subside as soon as most users start customizing things to their liking. Or learning how to do so from helpful people on forums like here and your example.

    Fairly clever there, Night Hawk. Nice!
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