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Here's what's wrong with Windows 8

  1. #31


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    Turned Off?


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Rant:

    One thing; if you do not like the ribbon turn it off, or is that just to hard for some of you to do. . . /end of rant
    How do you do anything with it "turned off"?

    I assume you actually mean hide it.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 165
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    The OS is about customizing to your needs
    Really ? How to customize:
    • disable metro start menu at boot ?
    • enable desktop at boot ?
    • enable desktop start menu ?
    • disable Charmbar ? (because it always appears when I move my mouse cursor to the right to my second monitor on right side)
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  3. #33


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    xp, vista, 7, 8dp, ubuntu, osx


    The one thing that keeps annoying me is that if you like metro, all is fine. But when you dislike metro, you are wrong!

    Imo metro is good move for touch devices, but is very limited for serious desktop use (non touch).

    It is not a surprise for me to find MS using its market share in desktop pc's to force the consumer to accept a product.
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  4. #34


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    It is not a surprise for me to find MS using its market share in desktop pc's to force the consumer to accept a product.

    You resume well the citation. Microsoft is now too big, Governments will have to step in, if MS want to try new thing no problem, but they have to continue to support and not phase out Windows 7 and even XP, too much peoples are depending on them, this is one of the core of the economy, you can't let Microsoft decide everything for all the world. They make us buy and use XP and Windows 7, they canít remove it from the market, itís not moral.
    I dont care what thing some peoples who are using their PCs just as entertainement in their houses, it's all the business, the one who make the economy work, who will have to endure this non sense
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  5. #35


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    I dont care what thing some peoples who are using their PCs just as entertainement in their houses, it's all the business, the one who make the economy work, who will have to endure this non sense
    Over the years and especially lately, I see lots of people saying things like this. If you really think about it though, if MS did not make some funky changes here and there - confuse people a little, throw a wrench in the wheel, add this feature, disable that one, new way to do things, old way may or may not work, move the Control Panel here...etc...

    ...that's what actually creates jobs. I read people saying how the IT dept will go bonkers, how to train everyone?, is it possible??

    Instead, we should be seeing things like, "Oh, this is different in Windows 8. I can easily now add a tiny sub-division to my small business to deal with that for my customers" - or similar - what I mean is clear enough.

    All that stuff is creating employment. Every single last person getting paid to deal with anything computers really has Microsoft to thank in no small part. It's all by design and intended.

    If Windows 2000 was the newest OS, and Microsoft has been patching it all these years along with companys making drivers all these years (as the sole forefront OS), the stability would be enourmous. IT workers would be out of jobs.
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  6. #36


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    In the present economy business, try to survive, not increase their IT department load.
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  7. #37


    Government stepping in? Really? And THAT is supposed to make things better? I've been in and around Government computing projects for decades, and in all honesty, I can't think of a single instance where they interfered in something and did NOT completely hose it up!

    Regarding making Win8 "right" -- I've seen suggestions like adding an entry to the installer to tell it whether or not it's using a touch device, and if it's NOT, then defaulting to the desktop approach, instead of Metro.

    I also saw a screen layout that had the Metro stuff centered, but was bordered in the standard desktop -- giving the best of both worlds.

    However, there may be a "light at the end of this tunnel" in that I saw an article yesterday on several forums indicating that a former MS person had setup a website to focus on what he thought MS did wrong with Win8 -- focus on touch devices -- and to gather ideas for tailoring Win8 to work well for the REST of us.
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  8. #38


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    LOL - that is like throwing rubbish in the street to make more street cleaning jobs.


    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    I dont care what thing some peoples who are using their PCs just as entertainement in their houses, it's all the business, the one who make the economy work, who will have to endure this non sense
    Over the years and especially lately, I see lots of people saying things like this. If you really think about it though, if MS did not make some funky changes here and there - confuse people a little, throw a wrench in the wheel, add this feature, disable that one, new way to do things, old way may or may not work, move the Control Panel here...etc...

    ...that's what actually creates jobs. I read people saying how the IT dept will go bonkers, how to train everyone?, is it possible??

    Instead, we should be seeing things like, "Oh, this is different in Windows 8. I can easily now add a tiny sub-division to my small business to deal with that for my customers" - or similar - what I mean is clear enough.

    All that stuff is creating employment. Every single last person getting paid to deal with anything computers really has Microsoft to thank in no small part. It's all by design and intended.

    If Windows 2000 was the newest OS, and Microsoft has been patching it all these years along with companys making drivers all these years (as the sole forefront OS), the stability would be enourmous. IT workers would be out of jobs.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    win the powerball, buy microsoft, do what you want
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  10. #40


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by NiFu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    The OS is about customizing to your needs
    Really ? How to customize:
    • disable metro start menu at boot ?
    • enable desktop at boot ?
    • enable desktop start menu ?
    • disable Charmbar ? (because it always appears when I move my mouse cursor to the right to my second monitor on right side)
    Disable Chamber? or create a shortcut for it once you realize that is all too familiar to Vista's sidebar only not remaining visible once enabled constantly. Only this an auto hide mechanism being used there.

    With the CP overall fortunately "still in beta" and not the actual RTM we are having a look at some new ideas MS is tossing around. The initial reaction as well as testing perhaps is one way MS will find out if 8 is "sellable" as well as allowing people to see what is in store.

    Once retail the Metro will likely still be default until throwing a switch or the Windows installer may reveal an option for two differenc system configurations. Or how about simply running the tnen setting to find the off switch there?

    A total deviation from a desktop OS and not simply a new look with some new "pleasures"(or dimises) would be a downfall trendwise as well as versionwise leading to 8 being a flopperoni that simply falls flat on it's face. If MS incorporates a configuration options wizard that allows disabling Metro to present a more typical desktop for desktop use then they have simply made a stride in touchscreen/tablet support along with the usual desktop OS.

    On the other hand if MS leaves all as is will all of the extra step around or through this to get to that to go find something else without regard of what users have been tooled with since 95 then you would have to expect 8 to... FLOP?

    Being innovative is what MS is supposed to be about in order to bring out new ideas as well as support for new hardwares and services. Leaving the desktop behind totally however would be disasterous for MS as well as the user.

    Incorporation of new ideas into a desktop OS on the other hand without these simply being rhrown in your face with numerous options available would make far more sense. The real look is in the finish however not the CP we see now. That will be what makes or breaks 8 there.
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