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Here's what's wrong with Windows 8

  1. #11


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    Article is junk

    1. Go out buy a 24" touchscreen monitor for $280.
    2. Ribbon interfaces have been around for years.
    3. Most people spend hours on the computer, take 15 minutes to learn the interface.
    4. The OS is device driven, figure it out.
    5. There will be a way to have desktop as the default, wait for it.
    6. The average person isn't going to be running silicon graphics cad software via their metro apps
    7. Kinect?, who cares, waste of time, go outside and get some real exercise.
    8. Extra clicks hurting your figures, grow a pair!
    9. Live tiles, who cares, better than what we got now.
    10. Big screens better, of course they are, most people now have 32" hdtv's or bigger, look into it

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Article is junk

    1. Go out buy a 24" touchscreen monitor for $280.
    2. Ribbon interfaces have been around for years.
    3. Most people spend hours on the computer, take 15 minutes to learn the interface.
    4. The OS is device driven, figure it out.
    5. There will be a way to have desktop as the default, wait for it.
    6. The average person isn't going to be running silicon graphics cad software via their metro apps
    7. Kinect?, who cares, waste of time, go outside and get some real exercise.
    8. Extra clicks hurting your figures, grow a pair!
    9. Live tiles, who cares, better than what we got now.
    10. Big screens better, of course they are, most people now have 32" hdtv's or bigger, look into it
    I agree, one button would be all it takes to stifle all complaints. Classic desktop,..."click" all done, therefore making this article and all similar complaints a waste of time and a mute point. This is not a completely done Op system and people need to remember that.

    Metro screen and start button complaints aside the actual desk top Op system is quantum times more stable than Windows 7 ever was.

    I've been trying to lock this system up or hoping I'd see at least one blue screen but after two weeks not a one. Normally after two weeks using Windows 7 I'd see at least a couple of screen freeze lock ups when viewing video's or gaming.

    This isn't just Windows 7 with a Metro screen and no start button. It's obvious to me that Microsoft rewrote parts or all of the Windows 7 code base in order to create a more stable and intuitive operating system which is what we should be talking about.
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  3. #13


    Tropical Island Pair a Dice
    Posts : 3,030
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    Good point, also see meaningful improvements.

    Once they add the 'Disable Metro and add start menu' button, then we'll hear the it's just Win7 SP2 complaints, I think we should just get on with the new OS discovery.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 738
    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    For Vista it was the Aero theme and sidebar/gadgets. For 7 it was pinning shortcuts on the taskbar. And now for 8 it will be the Metro UI that will prove to be the new animal to study!

    A lot of the emphasis for 8 will be the increased support for touch screen which most realize is the obvious just from one look at the CP following DP. Tablet PC and Windows Phone are two of the hot items MS is focusing on to some extent.

    The total lack of any familiar Start menu will be the first on the list while once you move into the Apps or Settings screens you fon't see a back button or arrow to click on but have to bring up the Start screen. I think the extra steps will be the largest huddle to overcome.

    For those that like things in low resolutions like a few people I know one in particular with a 24" display but runs at 1280x1024 for a screen res the new Start screen could well be an attraction more then a turn off. For those who prefer high res on everything you can also see where this becomes one of the obstacles on the other hand.

    Overall I think this is the one version that will end up seeing far more mixed reactions over any previous version. Rest assured MS will have be ironing things before 8 reaches RTM to make 8 work out in the long run!

    Besides the main GUI's appearance what other new features? along with what new support does 8 offer? Will there be a newer form of XP or Vista Mode? That's another area we'll be learning more about.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Good piece, can't argue with what the author is saying.
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  6. #16


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Couldn't agree more! I think that has been the best write up I've run across so far for the next version still to come.

    The author there nails it on the head when making the assessment of the major changes to the main gui itself. I still run across some asking about how to do things with the 7 taskbar. Wait until they catch a view of what 8 will bring to the table!
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  7. #17


    Posts : 165
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    one button would be all it takes to stifle all complaints. Classic desktop,..."click" all done
    Not a good idea - in the viewpoint of Microsoft:

    No metro -> no "Store" icon
    No "Store" - > no Apps
    No Apps - > no profit
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  8. #18


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    I found this article sums things up very accurately on how most users will stumble onto things only by trial and error over a lengthy period of time! When following one report's info on pressing the Windows key + Shift I combination to bring all settings I had to scroll a mile over to the right to go over each item while looking for one thing in particular. ......

    Actually the REAL problem is that most people cannot be bothered anymore to "R.T.F.M".

    The documentation is basically there --It's NOT W7 but a new version of Windows --so it's not surprising if things work differently.


    If it were mainly W7 with Touch and Metro UI added then people wouldn't have had the problem --but the OS itself might have run like a dog.

    People tend to use tablets and smartphones DIFFERENTLY than they way they use a desktop OS so I can't see any problem with MS in trying to design an OS which will work in these newer devices --and give users the option of using this OS on their desktop / laptop as well if they want to - bearing in mind it will generally behave and look different to the Desktop OS they have been used to.

    The Onus is on the USER to read / understand the documentation.

    It's also a "Beta" so there isn't any problem in expressing disliked / liked features -- but this is NOT an update of W7 so I'd suggest that users wanting to improve what already exists in W7 might be better in addressing the W7 team.

    There is NO way that ANY corporate will use W8 in the near future --they are only just beginning to roll out W7 so people need to understand that these OS'es will CO-EXIST for many years (assuming W8 is released).

    W8 will start of essentially as a CONSUMER product rather than an Enterprise one as far as the desk / laptop is concerned.

    We shall have to see how tablets and phones cope with W8 -- but IMO almost ANYTHING is better than "DUMBDROID". (And I'm not buying an Iphone either).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #19


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    RTFM?


    Where's the Metro tile, "Windows User Manual"?
    Have you tried using the "Windows Help"?

    The only useful info about W8, is on forums like this one.
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  10. #20


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    there was quite a lot of documentation with in the DEVELOPER EDITION preview download which i'm sure most people have who are trying the consumer download.

    In any case there is plenty of data on THIS FORUM (thanks everybody) so the advice is still the same --learn to do what you need in the new W8 -- and remember it's not simply an updated version of W7.

    And if you REALLY don't like it don't use it --but don't complain after only using it for 30 mins or so.

    I wonder in the authors disklike of the Ribbon has he ever used EXCEL. I like the ribbon --and if he has trouble with using the mouse I suspect his hardware could have a defect in it.

    I really don't have any problem with using the mouse and there are some excellent keyboard short cuts too.

    My only problem is that the tiles can't be customized currentl when installing "Bog standard apps" like Photoshop CS5.5 etc.

    You can get rid of surplus ones but you can't change the background or do much with the ICON that comes with standard program installs.

    cheers
    jimbo

    Cheers
    jimbo
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