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YouTube Video Shows How "Real People" React To Windows 8

  1. #41


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    The "Big Deal"? It's more of a matter of prospective! Any beta will always look a bit crude to start with since it is just that. Beta!

    One click to get to the desktop is certainly no biggie here. The new gui can be a bit staggering for the novice user however kind of where 8 is headed to be the new "Geek's OS" formerly given to all those open source OSs!

    I think area 66 hit it closer on the button with the comment about it being more of a phone OS which compliments Windows Phone 8 perhaps as well as Tablet PC seemingly moving away from an actual desktop OS people would normally be expecting to see.

    Just like the word on Linux the other guy's OS was always if you can get it to run... blah blah blah MS is leaning in that direction to some degree with all the "hidden" menus rather then having something like a button bar for Start screen, Personalization, Settings, etc. where people can at least "find things" to some extent as the YT clip brings to bear.

    At least the one thing MS did mostly in the past prior to 7 with any retail release was include a large paperback along with the media in a larger carton. With 7 you saw a small booklet in a convenient but "delicate" plastic case. What will they do with 8? now that they have made a major GUI change is yet to be seen.

    The largest problem I have seen here so far has not been with the new look but simply getting a VM connected online! For some reason the 8 VM is looking for device drivers detecting the host's hardwares directly! As we all know installing drivers for any VM OS for physical devices is a bit awkward and rare since virtual appliances are typically seen.

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    The rest is simply "getting acquainted with" 8's Metro UI just as if you were trying out an entirely new OS. Problematic at first as with any newer version and a bit more confusing at the start no doubt. But eventually you get there. One of these years anyways!

    Meanwhile here's another pair of W8 YT clips one by the geeks seen at Windows 8 Consumer Preview Hands On! - Tekzilla Daily Tip - YouTube

    Then there's the official CP Demo with some harsh comments made by viewers note seen at Windows 8 Consumer Preview Official Demo - YouTube

    You will notice the negative however is mainly directed at the Metro UI itself.

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    That get's me back to my " Where is the beef" discussion. I think MS was too busy to implement the ARM support and to introduce the Metro that there were few resources left to come up with new, exciting functions for the desktop. The better performance probably came from the ARM effort (a prerequisite on mobile devices). But for more they just ran out of resources. I am sure, Windows 9 and 10 will fix that and we will see a lot more exciting stuff.

    So yes, Win8 will probably be a disappointment for the PC - but in the meantime MS will rake up a new money from the mobile devices.
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    I found it discouraging more then being a flop in that sense since they had something working from scratch with 7 and then go off in bewilderment of user with some abstract mobile orientated OS! I think we both will be looking to see what 9 and 10 if those are called by number again will offer for the desktop as well as just what the RTM for 8 will actually look like.

    As far as sales they extended support for 7 until 2020 suggesting they know 7 will still be selling leaving room for them to "experiment" with mobile OS for grabbing market there!

    What will kill 8 sales however would be those who are strictly desktop users planning to upgrade out of XP or Vista into a newer version not having gone for 7 and then running into... Metro UI!

    "Hey where did Windows go?!" will be like the dismay and confusion illustrated in the YT clip which does make a good analogy for MS to think about in the long term.
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    Hi there
    C'mon guys -- ever seen how "Ordinary People" seem totally flummexed when standing in front of an ATM -- Sometimes you can see them taking 10 Mins !!!!! yes 10 Mins over what is essentially a trivial transaction.

    Same again to a lesser extent in SuperMarkets.

    I might be being a bit "Sexist" here but from my own experiences in lots of countries --doesn't matter what the "Line" is for --if you have to stand in one ALWAYS choose the line with THE LEAST WOMEN in it.

    (To the fairer sex : Please tell me why is it when you are in a Supermarket line and you finally get to the checkout you THEN start searching in your bag for your credit card etc --which is invariably at the bottom and you have to empty all sorts of stuff to get at it --can't you do it when you are NEXT in line !!!!!).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #45


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    Well Jimbo,

    If ( as you claim ) people do have trouble working an ATM - that mean MS should be aware that real people are like that.


    BTW - it should be fewest

    Least is the superlative of little.

    Fewest is the superlative of few.
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    C'mon guys -- ever seen how "Ordinary People" seem totally flummexed when standing in front of an ATM -- Sometimes you can see them taking 10 Mins !!!!! yes 10 Mins over what is essentially a trivial transaction.

    Same again to a lesser extent in SuperMarkets.

    I might be being a bit "Sexist" here but from my own experiences in lots of countries --doesn't matter what the "Line" is for --if you have to stand in one ALWAYS choose the line with THE LEAST WOMEN in it.

    (To the fairer sex : Please tell me why is it when you are in a Supermarket line and you finally get to the checkout you THEN start searching in your bag for your credit card etc --which is invariably at the bottom and you have to empty all sorts of stuff to get at it --can't you do it when you are NEXT in line !!!!!).

    Cheers
    jimbo

    Jimbo, you are exactly right. I always try to avoid the lines with a lot of females. They stand there forever but only when the cash register rings do they start looking for their money - if you are lucky. I have seen where they were on their cell phone and you had to wait until they were done babbling. Once I blew my top and said something that was not nice.

    In Europe that is a bit different. Since you have to pack your stuff yourself, they are at least busy doing something. And people are a lot more rude than in the US. They push you out of the store if you hold up traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Please tell me why is it when you are in a Supermarket line and you finally get to the checkout you THEN start searching in your bag for your credit card etc --which is invariably at the bottom and you have to empty all sorts of stuff to get at it --can't you do it when you are NEXT in line !!!!!).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    I am probably the same age as the grandfather in the video and Win8 has me flustered but still trying. Perhaps part of the problem is I loaded it on my Mac so the drivers may not be perfect. I sat there for a while trying to find the menu screen which is apparently hidden on the right side of the screen and is like trying to shoot moving targets at the Carnival. Everytime I'd see it pop up it would disappear before I could mouse it.

    I would get confused with the nice apps on how to return to the desktop while wondering if the app was running in the background. Sometimes when the carnival shoot menu appeared it would fool you as it may or may not show the Control Panel which I sorely needed. Sometimes it led you back to the apps you were trying to escape. As I said, maybe it was the display on my Mac that screwed up the hidden menu.

    I like it but it will take a lot more getting use to. I've used Windows for years but I am basically a point and click so anything beyond that is a mystery to me in computers. Like grandpa, I love my Mac and wouldn't have bothered with Windows except that damned Intuit has made a Quicken product for Mac that sucks. They must be in cahoots with Bill G lol.
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    From grandpa to grandpa - I made you a little tutorial. Maybe that can get you started. Windows 8 - Getting Started Video
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    I think where some of the confusion has been in that is intended to be the "Touchscreen OS for PC". You once had an XP Pro x64 back in 2005 which hardly saw any support or users for that matter. And then onto the 64bit Vista will install problems where more then 2gb of memory was installed and then onto a large success with 7.

    Now comes the flood of Netbooks, Smart phones, even Windows Phones as well as what? A totally new gui for the desktop PC?!

    As Sean Connery would have put it in an old Jame Bond movie, "Positively Shocking!" MS finally pulled one of the hat that has everyone flabbergausted!
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