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No Microsoft Start Menu for Windows 8 until 2015: Sources

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    No Microsoft Start Menu for Windows 8 until 2015: Sources


    Microsoft won't be delivering a new Start Menu for Windows 8 with its coming Windows 8.1 Update 2, after all.

    That recent change in plans comes courtesy of a couple of my sources who've had good track records on Windows information.

    Up until recently, Microsoft was hoping to make a new "Mini" Start Menu part of a second update to Windows 8.1. Windows 8.1 Update 2 was -- and still is, last I heard -- slated to arrive in August of this year.

    Microsoft's operating systems group has decided to hold off on delivering a Microsoft-developed Start Menu until Threshold, the next "major" release of Windows. Threshold, which may or may not ultimately be called Windows 9, is expected to be released in April 2015. I'm not clear whether the postponement is because the feature won't be fully baked in time, or if there's another reason for the change in plans.
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    Hi there

    Custom toolbars should be an acceptable alternative -- I also posted on this Forum how to add METRO apps also to a custom toolbar -- can't find the particular thread but the trick is to find the name of the executable app and wrap it in the explore cmd.

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    Yeah, not too suprised TBH .. I did find it rather strange that they even mentioned it at //build - particualrly as it was merely a mockup...

    I suspect there may be ongoing development and perhaps new functionality specific to Windows 9...
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    Hi there.

    Agree -- the Metro stuff is virtually USELESS on the current desktop. What would make these far more useful is to have these in re-sizeable windows and dynamically update rather like the old "Gadgets" but a lot more useful. For instance some Stock trading tickers -but when you click them they would take you STRAIGHT into your trading software for example. They would be launched from a classic start menu maybe.

    Another good one would be to "centralize" / have on a decent windowed screen - say live chat / Skype type applications -- instead of that pathetic little popup that apps like lync give (much better than nothing but we can do hugely better these days).

    One really needs though to separate essentially a mobile phone type app (a single one task small app) from much more complex apps that are used on a desktop where several complex processes are going on concurrently -- two totally different scenarios and "....Never the twain shall meet ....".

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    Threshold, Windows 9, whatever they want to call it, should be a free upgrade. They took out the start menu which was loved by many and as a sincere apology, they should release a free upgrade to next version of Windows (assuming that this new Windows has the start menu). I'd upgrade on day 1 if it was free lol. Could increase marketshare and reputation too.
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    I personally wouldn't classify current metro apps as "virtually useless" on the desktop, but that's just my opinion. The few I use work for me as is. I would also like to see them in re-sizeable windows though.

    I'd be very surprised if 9 was made free to those running 8 or 8.1. It would make a lot of people happy but I just don't see Microsoft giving up that revenue source. Assuming it sells that is. It's still very much a mystery OS at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Threshold, Windows 9, whatever they want to call it, should be a free upgrade. They took out the start menu which was loved by many and as a sincere apology, they should release a free upgrade to next version of Windows (assuming that this new Windows has the start menu). I'd upgrade on day 1 if it was free lol. Could increase marketshare and reputation too.
    Have they ever offered a free upgrade to a new OS? I know 8 to 8.1 was free but IMO it was an update not a new OS.

    I had the option of upgrading to 8 for a reduced price because my Win 7 computer was bought within a few months of 8 coming out. I did not do it. I thought they should have allowed reduced price upgrades to 8.1 but they never did. I might have done that.
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    No, and they won't.

    Win9 Might get a Limited time Reduced Upgrade Price like they did for Win8
    But it won't be free, nor should it be.

    If some of you want to go down this road I will say this....

    Those of us that purchased Win8 when it first came out should be the ones that can get a reduced Win9 Price.
    Those of you that sat on the fence, should have to pay full price. That's called a Loyalty Program.

    Granted, that will not happen either, but, if we are demanding free stuff, that's how I would determine it if it were my company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    No, and they won't.

    Win9 Might get a Limited time Reduced Upgrade Price like they did for Win8
    But it won't be free, nor should it be.
    Yes why should any company offer their new OS for free. Oh wait, a certain big one does just that and it hasn't hurt them. But that's not how Mr. $oftie does business.
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    I don't mind waiting, this just means Microsoft has plans to bring another Update 3 to Windows 8.1 presumably 6 months after Update 2 in 2015 which translates to Windows 8.1 is getting a lot of love from Microsoft.

    Even at it's current state, Windows 8.1 with Update 1 is near perfect OS for desktop users and better than both the original Windows 8 and Windows 7 IMHO.

    And with the current time frame between Update releases for Windows 8.1 (6 months), I wouldn't be surprised if Windows 8.1 get a Update 4 just before the release of Windows 9 in Q4 2015.
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