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No Microsoft Start Menu for Windows 8 until 2015: Sources

  1. #11


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by bru View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    No, and they won't.

    Win9 Might get a Limited time Reduced Upgrade Price like they did for Win8
    But it won't be free, nor should it be.
    Yes why should any company offer their new OS for free. Oh wait, a certain big one does just that and it hasn't hurt them. But that's not how Mr. $oftie does business.
    Oh you mean Apple? No, they role that into the cost of their Hardware.
    You mean Google? No they roll that into Selling your contact info and targeting info for advertising.
    You really think they are doing it for free and just giving it away, you are joking.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 86
    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bru View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    No, and they won't.

    Win9 Might get a Limited time Reduced Upgrade Price like they did for Win8
    But it won't be free, nor should it be.
    Yes why should any company offer their new OS for free. Oh wait, a certain big one does just that and it hasn't hurt them. But that's not how Mr. $oftie does business.
    Oh you mean Apple? No, they role that into the cost of their Hardware.
    You mean Google? No they roll that into Selling your contact info and targeting info for advertising.
    You really think they are doing it for free and just giving it away, you are joking.
    Everyone knows that Microsoft can do it. Look at their cash and see if its impossible. They just choose not to. They can still sell Windows DVDs in the store for a price but can only cover a certain amount of PCs. They can continue to charge enterprise. What they can do is if you have a valid Windows 8 product key, you will get a free upgrade to Windows 9. Oh wait I forgot, Microsoft wants money so this idea is too generous for them to do.

    Wait, Microsoft sells hardware like the Surface Pro so they can give out free Windows! Oh wait no, Microsoft has trouble selling well. Still, I think they need to gain user's trust back so this is the least they can do.
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  3. #13


    Somewhere in USA
    Posts : 233
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bru View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    No, and they won't.

    Win9 Might get a Limited time Reduced Upgrade Price like they did for Win8
    But it won't be free, nor should it be.
    Yes why should any company offer their new OS for free. Oh wait, a certain big one does just that and it hasn't hurt them. But that's not how Mr. $oftie does business.
    Oh you mean Apple? No, they role that into the cost of their Hardware.
    You mean Google? No they roll that into Selling your contact info and targeting info for advertising.
    You really think they are doing it for free and just giving it away, you are joking.

    Lol. Very well put. The guy's a dreamer.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    At this point, seriously, who cares. The buying public have massively rejected 8 and all its descendents, and no amount of window dressing will ever alter that fact. Plus, those who have gone with 8, by and large have already chosen their fix of choice and are unlikely to just simply opt for a new, almost certainly inferior ms version.
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  5. #15


    Who cares? I don't need their start menu - with Classic Shell and Rainmeter I'm happy with my desktop.

    MS would probably would put all those childish circus colored metro app icons all over it anyway! Desktop users might as well make the best of what they have and continue with their desktops without full help from MS.
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  6. #16


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    At this point, seriously, who cares. The buying public have massively rejected 8 and all its descendents, and no amount of window dressing will ever alter that fact. Plus, those who have gone with 8, by and large have already chosen their fix of choice and are unlikely to just simply opt for a new, almost certainly inferior ms version.
    Hi there.

    Actually Windows 8.1 update 1 isn't doing so bad now -- a lot of the shenanigans about W8 is dying away quite fast. It's not quite a VISTA situation.

    I'm even beginning to not like using W7 any more (although at the time certainly an EXCELLENT OS). The main reason I'm using W7 is so I can run some work based back ends -- SAPGUI for example - but with a lot of corporate workplaces employing new VDI (Virtual desktop Infrastructure) it will soon be possible to log on with my W8.1 device and get presented with the Work virtual desktop which should run the relevant applications -- so I won't even need the W7 VM any more.

    A lot of people actually quite LIKE 8.1 -- even people in their 80's !!!! from what I've seen --once they get used to it -- and in any case if you basically just want the desktop W8.1 update1 is perfectly OK --most people are quite happy with a few apps pinned to the desktop / taskbar so the whole menu idea for a lot of people is largely irrelevant now -- although I can't of course see any harm in bringing it back.

    Technologically no problem as some 3rd party providers have shown -- satisfying Corporate Egos is another matter --it's almost impossible to get any high powered corporate Pole Climber to actually admit they were wrong or made a mistake. However there's some new people at Ms these days - so the "Augean Stables" have essentially been cleaned out and we can go on from here.

    Hercules' Fifth Labor: the Augean Stables

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #17


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there.

    Actually Windows 8.1 update 1 isn't doing so bad now -- a lot of the shenanigans about W8 is dying away quite fast. It's not quite a VISTA situation.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Far worse than vista, imho.
    And update 1 broke my system, and I have since rolled it back completely, and will not reinstall it.

    No, for me 9 cannot come fast enough.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    .............No, for me 9 cannot come fast enough.
    Be careful what you wish for or anticipate - they may find a way to screw up 9 even more - lol!
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  9. #19


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Windows 8.1 update 1 works just fine for me. All four of my home PC's are running it as is with no added third party start menu. Being able to pin Metro Apps to the taskbar just made it easier to use. IMHO anybody that expects Windows 9 to be Windows 7 SE is in for a shock. It's much more likely to be Windows 8.1 SE. Like I said though, IMHO that's where Windows is headed. Only time will tell at this point though.
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  10. #20


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there.

    Actually Windows 8.1 update 1 isn't doing so bad now -- a lot of the shenanigans about W8 is dying away quite fast. It's not quite a VISTA situation.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Far worse than vista, imho.
    And update 1 broke my system, and I have since rolled it back completely, and will not reinstall it.

    No, for me 9 cannot come fast enough.
    Your system is quit modified though isn't it? You use a local account instead of a Live ID login, which cripples the Windows Store and prevents Metro apps from running. I do believe you've also killed UAC from the command prompt or with a reg entry. I think it was you anyway, if I got that wrong my apologies. Anyway, I would think doing stuff like that could mess up updates. I know turning UAC completely off will break some program installers, I've seen it myself.
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