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  1. #31


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    I tend not to use a laptop "On a lap". On a long distance train there's usually a table with a power socket (at least on long distance Continental trains in W.Europe) so putting a laptop "on a Lap" isn't a requirement for me.
    At work, I'm at a desk so no trouble at all there.

    However, at home when I'm lounging in my living room, I'm either sitting on the couch, or sitting in a recliner and the computer is open on my lap wedged between my legs and my stomach..or sitting on the arm of the couch. And since I'm always typing (like I am here), a real keyboard is an absolute most. No previous tablet with a keyboard has worked with a darn like this for me. My current Generation 1 Surface Pro with Type Cover is absolutely unusable like this.


    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    They would have to cut the prices in half for me to even consider getting one now
    Too much hardware to justify a huge price cut. You have to consider what you are getting, just like you do with an Apple computer. People complain all of the time that MacBook's are "way overpriced". But when you try to find a "comparable" PC (3.5lbs or less, 2560x1440+ screen, PCI-Express based SSD, Core i5, 7+ hours of battery life) you will likely find very similar prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    I'd use a remote wireless "Classical keyboard" and mouse for using this as a PC.
    I would do, I much prefer a nice mechanical keyboard. Mine wouldn't even be wireless...if it has a dock, I just used a wired device. Believe it or not, but I don't own a single wireless keyboard or mouse...never have.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Ms might be starting slowly here but they actually have a SERIOUS WINNER with this one.
    I really want to get my hands on one to play with the handwriting aspects. That's one area that I could very well use, that I haven't had in any previous PC or laptop purchase.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    I think it even looks better than the MacBook pro which was a pretty amazing device (even at its wallet busting price).
    Except for the top of the line models, I don't find most MacBook Pros to be that highly priced, considering the hardware you get. That PCI-Express based SSD is flat out fast

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    The "Whisper on the Street" is that RT isn't actually much longer for this world --this was a big mistake - possible a legacy from the Ballmer days. Don't expect a long term future for RT. Ms will concentrate its mobile efforts in the Windows phone while it will go big time for the enterprise market with products like the Surface Pro before "The Fruit Company" can come out with anything competitive.
    The thing with Apple is that they haven't catered their devices at all to the corporate or enterprise markets. But the end-users have simply just started using them there. In many BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) places, people are hauling in their Apple products. The end users have to want it, not matter what it does or how well it does it, the consumers are the ones who decide the fate of the product.

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  2. #32



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    I am wondering if they will bring the price down for the surface 2 pro now that the 3 is out. If they did i would consider purchasing it. But for the pricing for the pro 3 i can pirchase a mac air for less
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  3. #33


    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    I am wondering if they will bring the price down for the surface 2 pro now that the 3 is out. If they did i would consider purchasing it. But for the pricing for the pro 3 i can pirchase a mac air for less
    Yes, you can purchase a Macbook air for less. However, A MacBook air is bigger, heavier, doesn't have a touchscreen, has less screen resolution, and doesn't have a pen that you can use to write on the screen and take notes, and it doesn't run Windows applications.
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  4. #34


    I just read in another thread that the Pen now requires a AAA battery. <booooooo
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  5. #35


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    Hi there.

    Perhaps Ms should call this device the iWantOne !!

    I'm actually quite excited by this device --didn't think I would be but at 12.1 inch screen it becomes (IMO) extremely useable - and the portability !!!!.

    I'm not sure when Europe will see these but I'm sure it won't be too long. I think Ms actually WANTS to sell these -- a feeling I didn't get with some of the other models where they felt they were just "following the herd" but had to establish a presence in the Market place.

    Hopefully somebody will do some tests on seeing how robust these actually are --It needs to be "bicycle proof" too -- at this time of the year I use a Bicycle quite a lot so hopefully it can withstand being carried in a decent backpack while riding a bike.

    Not sure that the AAA battery the pen requires is anything of a problem -- these batteries are light and easily available anywhere --prefer these to those round tiny "hearing aid" type batteries that you usually need a special tool to extract and replace - even if you can find these batteries easily. If I run out I can simply remove the AAA battery from my E-reader cover's built in light (Sony e-reader !!!).

    Cheers
    jimbo.
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  6. #36


    I'm somewhat excited by the device as well. The handwriting aspect of it intrigues me. I didn't find that it worked well for me at all on the Generation 1 Surface Pro that I have. And the tiny touchpad on the touchcover made this device more or a pain to use than a pleasure. And I've always been irritated by the lack of a proper holder for the stylus/pen. It magnetically attaches to Surface 1 and Surface 2, but it attaches to the charging port...meaning when you need to charge, you have to unhook the pen/stylus and set it down. < means Pen gets lost.

    There is a little loop on the new Touch Cover keyboard for the pen. Gotta see how well that will work. The thought of a $50 pen dangling off the side of the keyboard is not awesome if you ask me.
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  7. #37


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    It's actually a AAAA battery.

    The price comparisons are all over the place. There is absolutely no machine that beats the features vs price. Get over it or get a cheapo combination of machines. It's that simple. This is meant as a single, all around, high-end reference design.

    I'll sum it up right here with a comment I posted elsewhere on a horrible review. One good thing to know is the 8:55 hrs. of use they got out of it.


    Wow! 9 hrs. of battery is fantastic! No one cares about a comparison to an Air whatever except those that need a full laptop keyboard and separate device. Guess what, the MacBook Air is a horrible tablet. Guess what else, the ipad Air is a horrible laptop. End of story. I'm all for consolidating with less clutter and weight. The proposition you pose that some think is ideal for journalists and those that type on their laps all day is of no concern to the other half of the population that has no need for this use. No one types on their laps all day. If you do, deal with it, it's not that bad or get a laptop. The kickstand is barely there it's so light. The tablet itself is just grams away from a Surface 2 and I use this one handed all the time without issue. You're forgetting the previous gen ipads were about the same weight. For those that have no idea how to use a Surface, most of the time I have the keyboard folded under as a base under the machine and stand. No digging whatsoever and super balanced on my lap, stomach, or anywhere in between or even holding up in my hand. There is NOTHING I would rather have and use than something as versatile as a Surface. There is no comparison with it's stand. Nothing touches this. Not even your combo workaround kit of appliances weighing 3+lbs. can match this.
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  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    It's actually a AAAA battery.
    Yep, my bad. I goofed when I commented.


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    No one types on their laps all day. If you do, deal with it, it's not that bad or get a laptop.
    At work, I'm at a desk. The Surface works better there. When I go home at night, I often sit in a recliner or on the couch and prop my laptop up between my legs and stomach or rest on couch arm. I can sit there for 2-3 hours doing computer work on a typical night. The Surface Pro Gen 1 that I have with the Type Cover is horrible for my at home use. The hinge area provides way too much slop, and the keyboard is flimsy and not rigid so it flexes and wobbles. Because of this, I don't use the Surface Pro any more at home. I use my MacBook Pro instead, or my wife's Samsung Series 7 Ultra Windows 8 ultrabook, or my work Dell Latitude e6430u Windows 8.1 ultrabook


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    No digging whatsoever and super balanced on my lap, stomach, or anywhere in between or even holding up in my hand. There is NOTHING I would rather have and use than something as versatile as a Surface.
    I'm glad to hear it's working out well for you. As a Surface Pro Gen 1 owner with a type cover, I haven't felt the same about using the device unless I have a table to set it on. And the touchpad on the type cover for the Gen 1 was abysmal. I know they focused on improving this greatly for the new Type Cover for the Surface Pro 3. I don't hate or bash on the Surface for these reasons, it's just not the right device for me. I'm much happier with a laptop.


    There is no comparison with it's stand. Nothing touches this. Not even your combo workaround kit of appliances weighing 3+lbs. can match this.[/QUOTE]
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  9. #39


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    I cannot imagine any sane person paying that much money for a tablet... essentially little more than a toy.

    For that kind of money a full on laptop is the only logical way to go.

    Imho, of course...
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  10. #40


    Wow! This thread got so hot I can hardly touch the screen on my Lumia to scroll.

    A few of you are surprising me with your interest in this thing, but a true and blue fanboi? We'll have to see on that one.

    Miniaturization has meshed a match on this one. Versatility as well. Job well done MS! Much thought of engineering went into this.

    This Lumia was my last Christmas present to myself. A SP3 may just be my next.
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