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  1. #41


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    I am sure whatever start menu windows rolls out won't be as good as classic shell so i will stick with that

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  2. #42


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
    Would it be better if there were separate editions of Windows that catered to the different audiences, like a tablet version where the desktop fades away, a hybrid version with both the desktop and Metro/Store so that people can use both, and an Enterprise/Pro version where the primary focus is desktop productivity?
    That would be a huge mess. The average user will look at the store shelf and be like "WTF?" lol It's simple for them to implement. All of these options should be given to the user at the Windows Setup screen when they finish installing Windows on their computer. Windows should automatically detect if the computer is a desktop, a non touch screen laptop, a hybrid or a tablet and configure the appropriate settings. Or give the consumer a custom option as well that they can change at anytime through Control Panel. Why is this not implemented, I don't know lol.
    Fair enough, the point being that the user should have the option to choose and/or make Windows the way they want it, whether that's done at the time of purchase or through setup, configuration, etc. And I'm guessing that the RT version of Windows without desktop wouldn't even be something that you could buy in a box on the shelf, it's just something that would come with the tablet.
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
    Would it be better if there were separate editions of Windows that catered to the different audiences, like a tablet version where the desktop fades away, a hybrid version with both the desktop and Metro/Store so that people can use both, and an Enterprise/Pro version where the primary focus is desktop productivity?
    That would be a huge mess. The average user will look at the store shelf and be like "WTF?" lol It's simple for them to implement. All of these options should be given to the user at the Windows Setup screen when they finish installing Windows on their computer. Windows should automatically detect if the computer is a desktop, a non touch screen laptop, a hybrid or a tablet and configure the appropriate settings. Or give the consumer a custom option as well that they can change at anytime through Control Panel. Why is this not implemented, I don't know lol.
    Fair enough, the point being that the user should have the option to choose and/or make Windows the way they want it, whether that's done at the time of purchase or through setup, configuration, etc. And I'm guessing that the RT version of Windows without desktop wouldn't even be something that you could buy in a box on the shelf, it's just something that would come with the tablet.
    It makes sense if this is implemented when they release Windows 8.2. Windows RT only works for ARM devices so they should already come with a version of Windows. If there are updates to the OS, it should be done on the device itself. Currently Microsoft doesn't think of ARM tablet devices like an iPad. If they did, they could of made something like iTunes where you connect your Windows RT tablet and configure it from another Windows computer.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeShades View Post
    I am sure whatever start menu windows rolls out won't be as good as classic shell so i will stick with that
    I'm using Start8 and I like it. Looks exactly like the Windows 7 start menu with a flat theme instead. I use the Windows 8 Start Screen like a dashboard. It shows me the weather, shows me if there are new email messages. So I hold the start button for like 2 seconds and the start screen appears. Then I press the start button once and my desktop appears again.
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  4. #44


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    They should just call this thing Windows 8.2 then 8.3..etc. Maybe there is no Windows 9 since Microsoft probably thinks Windows 8 is a major shift from traditional Windows. Similar to that of OS X. There is no OS 11 because there is no drastic shift from OS X.
    The OS version only increments when the kernel version changes. 8.0 was 6.2 and 8.1 is 6.3. update 1 didn't affect the kernel version so the OS version stays at 8.1. If they change that now it will just add more confusion.
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  5. #45


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    They should just call this thing Windows 8.2 then 8.3..etc. Maybe there is no Windows 9 since Microsoft probably thinks Windows 8 is a major shift from traditional Windows. Similar to that of OS X. There is no OS 11 because there is no drastic shift from OS X.
    The OS version only increments when the kernel version changes. 8.0 was 6.2 and 8.1 is 6.3. update 1 didn't affect the kernel version so the OS version stays at 8.1. If they change that now it will just add more confusion.
    There lies the difference between Upgrade and Update. 8.1 was Upgrade and it got updated after, so it has to stay 8.1 no matter how many and what updates do.
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    They should just call this thing Windows 8.2 then 8.3..etc. Maybe there is no Windows 9 since Microsoft probably thinks Windows 8 is a major shift from traditional Windows. Similar to that of OS X. There is no OS 11 because there is no drastic shift from OS X.
    The OS version only increments when the kernel version changes. 8.0 was 6.2 and 8.1 is 6.3. update 1 didn't affect the kernel version so the OS version stays at 8.1. If they change that now it will just add more confusion.
    There lies the difference between Upgrade and Update. 8.1 was Upgrade and it got updated after, so it has to stay 8.1 no matter how many and what updates do.
    I couldn't have said it better myself.
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  7. #47


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    Quote Originally Posted by JoeShades View Post
    I am sure whatever start menu windows rolls out won't be as good as classic shell so i will stick with that
    Agree that CS is excellent++ (as are surely the other menu fixers), but will also be very interesting to see what MS comes up with.

    Generally, am glad for these positive signals from MS (after finally -and forcefully- realizing the seriousness of what was going on, sacking some people + starting to turn the ship before it hit something big and heavy), am slowly gaining some hope in the future, seeing a road ahead with possibilities of choice\coexistence between the playmobile-os and the 'normal' pc.
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  8. #48


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    Windows 8.1 Pro/Server 2012 R2 Datacenter


    SoftPedia as a news source and "Start Menu coming back" as the headline didn't tip you off? I doubt there is a better example of a fake story
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  9. #49


    Posts : 176
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by msdos622wasfun View Post
    Would it be better if there were separate editions of Windows that catered to the different audiences, like a tablet version where the desktop fades away, a hybrid version with both the desktop and Metro/Store so that people can use both, and an Enterprise/Pro version where the primary focus is desktop productivity?
    That would be a huge mess. The average user will look at the store shelf and be like "WTF?" lol It's simple for them to implement. All of these options should be given to the user at the Windows Setup screen when they finish installing Windows on their computer. Windows should automatically detect if the computer is a desktop, a non touch screen laptop, a hybrid or a tablet and configure the appropriate settings. Or give the consumer a custom option as well that they can change at anytime through Control Panel. Why is this not implemented, I don't know lol.
    The average user is going to buy whatever operating system comes preloaded on the device.
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Being able to resize the Window Metro Apps run in, like you can for desktop programs, works for me. I'm not sure I want the new Start Menu though. Hopefully that's something you can turn off if you want.
    I would like to get a look at what MS is planning for the new start before I judge it. Right now I'm using ClassicShell for my start and it's serving me well. Hopefully MS can out do that.
    ClassicShell is really good, but the need of other software to enable a consagrated feature annoys me.

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