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Windows 8.1 Update 2 Confirmed

  1. #21


    North Yorkshire
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    I also hope that the Upgrade will allow the return to Start Button to be optional. I have accepted and preferred the new Start Screen since day 1 of Windows 8.
    Re the problem with Firefox & Flash Player suffered by 'Rickkins', may I ask has he tried Waterfox? I've used Waterfox with Windows 8 since day 1 and no such problems; it's an excellent browser, fast enough for me and allows customisation to suit personal taste. I dropped IE long ago, don't like it but I may add to each their own.

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  2. #22


    That's all just training wheels for Win9.
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  3. #23


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by Yorky View Post
    Re the problem with Firefox & Flash Player suffered by 'Rickkins', may I ask has he tried Waterfox? I've used Waterfox with Windows 8 since day 1 and no such problems; it's an excellent browser, fast enough for me and allows customisation to suit personal taste. I dropped IE long ago, don't like it but I may add to each their own.
    In fact yes I have. I was using Cyberfox when I installed the update, after which I tried several different flavors to alleviate the issues, including Waterfox.
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  4. #24


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there

    looks OK to me.

    It gets a bit unreal though with the whole start menu thing -- remember at the introduction of W8 the boards were absolutely jam packed full of posts wanting the classical menu back -- guess what - now we are seeing posts saying Please DON'T bring it back.

    Seems you can never please everyone. - What I would like though is dynamically updating (in real time) metro apps able to operate in re-sizeable windows -- not this cackhanded idea of 1/2 or 1/4 of the screen or whatever that they have now. The windows should be able to be moved to different screens in a multi-monitor setup just like "normal" windows apps do - and if required they can also operate in full screen.

    Another feature would be for these apps to be able to work in BORDERLESS re-sizeable windows too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #25


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    to the resizable Window for Metro Apps.

    Last time I checked you can move Metro Apps from screen to screen like you can an open desktop program? With Update 1 you can drag and drop from the title bar.
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  6. #26


    Sydney Australia
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    If it does have a start menu then I would consider buying Win 8 and using it but TBH, this should have been an option upon release, or if not within the first few months.

    In any case Win 9 can't be that far away & I'm happy with Win 7.X.XX.X until then if need be.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 168
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    I certainly won't mind if they bring it back, just like I haven't minded the gradual evolutions and tweaks that have occurred since the original 8 came out. I think the majority of Windows users mainly want options; MS seems to be slowly noticing this. Or at least, certainly they once did, and then the regime for the last couple years just prior to 8's release may have neglected that aspect a little, because they didn't allow any way to access the classic interface, thus "forcing" Metro and the Start screen on everyone. But just maybe we can head into the future with a mobile, touch vision, while allowing users to slowly adopt it so that that what they're used to (desktop, mouse, keyboard, etc.) isn't abruptly taken away from them at a time when they're not fully ready. We need time for this to take shape. I like the Start screen, always have. But I recognize my way of working or thinking might be different from someone else's.
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  8. #28


    Quote Originally Posted by elbeasto View Post
    If it does have a start menu then I would consider buying Win 8 and using it but TBH, this should have been an option upon release, or if not within the first few months.

    In any case Win 9 can't be that far away & I'm happy with Win 7.X.XX.X until then if need be.
    Fair comment. If you are happy with Windows 7, and it does what you require, why move on. But with so many excellent third party start menus available, if that is your direction, then it should not be a prohibitive reason for not purchasing Windows 8. I, and I am sure most others, have for many years installed third party programs which I consider superior to those built in to Oss, so it is not (by me!) considered a big deal- most certainly not a purchasing consideration..

    As far as "windowing" is concerned. Well, I did use modermix, which has taken care of that, but, frankly, I only use on so-called "App", other than that, my software is all legacy, from Windows 7, all of which runs in winnowed environment.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Well, lol - firefox sucks, it is internet explorer 5 v2.0 of modern era, it is the worst and slowest browser, i got rid of it long time ago, such buggs, much slow ...
    Well to each his own. I've been with the same browser since the beginning(Netscape 1.0) and I'll likely play out the clock using the same*

    *Firefox and any derivatives are descendants of the original Netscape.
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  10. #30


    USA/Tenn/Oak Ridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Well, lol - firefox sucks, it is internet explorer 5 v2.0 of modern era, it is the worst and slowest browser, i got rid of it long time ago, such buggs, much slow ...
    Well to each his own. I've been with the same browser since the beginning(Netscape 1.0) and I'll likely play out the clock using the same*

    *Firefox and any derivatives are descendants of the original Netscape.

    I've used Netscape/Firefox for just about the same time and I've not had any issues with it. Of course YMMV and even with the added advertising on the new tab screen I think I'll continue to use it.
    I for one would like a clarification from nonono on what issues he has rather than putting out a blanket condemnation of a fine browser.
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