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Microsoft as a Subscription?

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  • Yes, Great idea, could make things a bit cheaper in the long run

    4 4.40%
  • No, horrible idea, WTH are they thinking?

    68 74.73%
  • Maybe, Depends on the features and price

    19 20.88%
  1. #71


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Why would he have to upgrade them?

    I was under the impression plenty of people using 2003/2007 to this day, perfectly happily. That is why one buys things, so one can keep using them.

    For those who are perfectly fine buying something and then using it forever until it simply doesn't function, this model is not designed for them at all, nor would it make any sense at all.

    Many people though want the newest versions, they want the most up to date from a security standpoint, want too ensure as much compatibility with other software and peripherals they are using. Many also have multiple devices now, where in the past it might have only been 1 desktop. The subscription model fits here quite well.

    You cannot look at something like this simply and just write it off because it doesn't fit you perfectly. And contrary to popular belief, this isn't just a move to screw customers. If anything, companies have to tread lightly as more options are available to customers.

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  2. #72


    Posts : 53
    Windows 7/8


    Nothing surprising here. That said, I seriously doubt the OS is involved here. We already know all smaller devices Microsoft will be giving it away from free. I would expect the larger devices to follow suit at some point. I think people forget the OS is ideally just meant to be a usability layer between the user and the hardware. If Microsoft strips out everything as far as apps, so it does not have to support those, and goes to a pay only support model for everything but online forums, they will come out ahead, and so will we.

    The CEO is right, they are on their way there. BTW, Corporations already pay via a subscription model, as do developers via MSDN. Have Office, and other apps on a subscription bases will offset a lot of revenue, free up Microsoft to ramp up upgrades since everyone pays per year and not per upgrade, and hopefully will get the company to innovate back into some of the consumer app/program space though dropped out of a few years ago.
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  3. #73


    It all depends on what one would need...

    For home, it makes sense if the end user plan to upgrade following the current three years cycle for MS Office. Getting the full Office 2013 Professional to five PCs installed locally for hundred bucks a year is a great deal.

    Even a single Office 365 subscription, that allows one PC or Mac local installation in addition to the online access to Office 2013 for 70 bucks a year, is a great deal financially. In six years that's 420 bucks, which is pretty much the cost of a single MS Office 2013 Pro license, with no online access to Office.

    For small businesses, the cost is more, especially the premium version that includes local installation. The price is 150 bucks per year for each users. But the premium also includes business-class email, online conferencing, public website, and file storage and sharing.

    For operating systems, MS seems to be on the 4-5 years cycle for new OS. That's pretty much the same cycle of my machines being replaced. Forking out 230 bucks to purchase a single license, or pay MS 40-50 bucks for OS lease is pretty much the same from the financial perspective.

    For people who just got off from XP, leasing software is not a good option. For all others who like to move along with the MS cycles, this is a pretty good deal, if you don't pay attention to the privacy implication of entrusting MS with everything you do...
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  4. #74


    Mt. Crumpit cave
    Posts : 108
    Win 7 Ult X64 SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Might as well, the PC, ("Personal Computer"), as we used to know it is rapidly becoming a thing of the past anyway!
    Not in the universe I'm in.
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  5. #75


    Yep, all those tablets and tablets with phone capabilities (so called "mobile" phones) are like toilet paper - the world is full of them, but it doesnt mean it rules the world
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  6. #76


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Why would he have to upgrade them?

    I was under the impression plenty of people using 2003/2007 to this day, perfectly happily. That is why one buys things, so one can keep using them.

    I do believe you've never had to edit or even print a Word document with Office 2003 from Office versions 2007, 2010, or 2013?
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  7. #77


    Posts : 34
    Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Why would he have to upgrade them?

    I was under the impression plenty of people using 2003/2007 to this day, perfectly happily. That is why one buys things, so one can keep using them.

    I do believe you've never had to edit or even print a Word document with Office 2003 from Office versions 2007, 2010, or 2013?
    Just use the compatibility pack for Office 2003 and you can open documents created in newer versions just fine....
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  8. #78


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Rxd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Why would he have to upgrade them?

    I was under the impression plenty of people using 2003/2007 to this day, perfectly happily. That is why one buys things, so one can keep using them.

    I do believe you've never had to edit or even print a Word document with Office 2003 from Office versions 2007, 2010, or 2013?
    Just use the compatibility pack for Office 2003 and you can open documents created in newer versions just fine....

    Doesn't always work. Plus trying to edit between versions can cause issues and corruption.
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  9. #79


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rxd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    I do believe you've never had to edit or even print a Word document with Office 2003 from Office versions 2007, 2010, or 2013?
    Just use the compatibility pack for Office 2003 and you can open documents created in newer versions just fine....

    Doesn't always work. Plus trying to edit between versions can cause issues and corruption.
    I concur, I've never seen a .docx file open in Word 2003 flawlessly. There are ALWAYS formatting issues or words that run into eachothermuch like this. I've definitely had to spend a few minutes fixing documents in 2003 JUST so I could print it off.

    Oh yeah, and don't forget that regardless of a compatibility pack, if you compile a PowerPoint in 2007/10/13 that has anything remotely advanced in animations, transitions, embedded videos or general formatting; you can't properly view most of that. You can't run the video (if done in 2010, the same problem occurs in 2007), you can't view the rich animations or transitions you spent a deal of time perfecting.

    Never mind the fact how I can't even use 2003 because of no Ribbon UI... How we all once did that is beyond me.

    See, you CAN use the older version of the software, but compared to modern versions, it's like running a barebones piece of software as it pales in comparison in features, capabilities, and overall ideal usability.
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  10. #80


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    You can get the .docx VIEWER so you can VIEW the document correctly.

    From that you can cut and paste the bits you want into Office 2003 -- Works flawlessly unless you've got some weird special formatting options that don't exist in the earlier versions.

    IMO most office documents are usually not full of any particular specialized formatting. Certainly for HOME use this method works 100%.

    Office Online File Converters and Viewers - Downloads

    Latest versions as well as ONLINE converters too.

    Free Microsoft Office 2003, 2007, 2010, or 2013 Document Viewers

    Cheers
    jimbo
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