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  • Yes, Great idea, could make things a bit cheaper in the long run

    4 4.40%
  • No, horrible idea, WTH are they thinking?

    68 74.73%
  • Maybe, Depends on the features and price

    19 20.88%
  1. #121


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I for instance, would have to do a lot (with cost going with it) to get international credit card (which here costs a lot to maintain) suffer thru money exchange (there's few percent loss in that) than notify bank about transfer so they release exact amount and that they charge for too.
    There are a lot of possibilities to get a Visa or Master Card debit card for almost free, a card which when you have funds uploaded and available can be used as a normal credit card both online and and at POS places.

    One which I can vouch for is Skrill (former Moneybookers) at https://www.skrill.com/. It's a PayPal like service. I pay for my Skrill Master Card €10 a year, using it in all those places where I do not want to give my real CC details like for instance online shopping.

    Kari

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  2. #122


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I for instance, would have to do a lot (with cost going with it) to get international credit card (which here costs a lot to maintain) suffer thru money exchange (there's few percent loss in that) than notify bank about transfer so they release exact amount and that they charge for too.
    There are a lot of possibilities to get a Visa or Master Card debit card for almost free, a card which when you have funds uploaded and available can be used as a normal credit card both online and and at POS places.

    One which I can vouch for is Skrill (former Moneybookers) at https://www.skrill.com/. It's a PayPal like service. I pay for my Skrill Master Card €10 a year, using it in all those places where I do not want to give my real CC details like for instance online shopping.

    Kari
    Haven't been to places like Serbia lately ??? Still have a long way to go to EU. Besides I managed to live in Canada for 25yrs. without a credit card. Could just imagine what it looks like in some other, poorer countries.
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  3. #123


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Not lately but yes, I have been to Serbia. I also know a Serbian who uses a similar online debit Master Card, without issues.

    You being in Serbia has nothing to do with what I told you. Simply, if you want to you have very cheap options available to be able to pay online using one of many existing online debit card systems. As an argument against paid for subscription services living in Serbia is not a valid argument.
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  4. #124


    Here is a real problem with internet software where you have to be online to use it and it will not go away.

    Log-in outage hobbles Adobe's Creative Cloud

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  5. #125


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    I seriously doubt it would be a Google-esque OS. Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway. But, I am sure it would be similar to Office 365, where offline is not an issue.

    Also, I seriously doubt MS will go through your PC and remove software. Do you realize the mass backlash they would get, have you been paying attention to the whole Win8 b*tchathon?
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  6. #126


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Steve isn't so keen.

    "I want to feel that I own things... the more we transfer everything onto the web, onto the cloud, the less we're going to have control over it."

    “Nowadays in the digital world you can hardly own anything anymore. It’s all these subscriptions…

    and you’ve already agreed that every right in the world belongs to them and you’ve got no rights. And if you’ve put it on the cloud, you don’t own it. You’ve signed away all the rights to it.

    When we grew up ownership was what made America different than Russia.”


    Steve Wozniak
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  7. #127


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    Things like skrill are fine -- however why do people always think it's one OR the other -- Why could not say "The Post Office" network be set up to handle these types of payments for people who don't have a credit card or don't want to use one.

    In most countries the Post Office stll has a fairly extensive network -- even in some quite small rural communities -- You could just walk into the Post Office, pay the amount over the counter and that's it --job done.

    I don't like some Internet transactions myself -- but I'm managing to talk our local Postmistress into doing this -- it's extra business for a very popular and well liked organisation that is finding itself increasingly under threat from new technology every day --here's a service that could esily be done relatively cheaply.

    Incidentally "Click and Collect" which is the new buzzword in e-commerce -- has been around here for AGES - again the Post office can (and does) provide a valuable service. !! I can't understand why the concept took so long -- great to order on the Internet but who needs to wait 3 days and then miss the delivery van etc !!!! when with a short drive you can collect it same day from a CONVENIENT location..

    (Even to our US colleagues - I found the US Postal service just fine --even right Downtown LA- there are always one or two bad apples in any organisation but the Post Office in whatever country you are in seems to be just fine).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #128


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.
    No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.
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  9. #129


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.
    No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.
    Hi there.

    That's why I suggested The Post Office.

    However if you've ever been to AFRICA you'll see that even in Tiny villages a lot of people seem to be on mobile phones 24 hrs a day -- I rather suspect that in places like Africa with the exception of some major cities like Cape Town etc the old "copper wire" telephone infrastructure was very old or probably non existent. That's why these places often have BETTER mobile connections than some people in the "richer" more northerly European countries !!!.

    Note of course not everybody in these types of countries has access to a computer or Mobile - but for those that do and can afford it the service is well up to par (or even better) with "First World countries". - In the UK outside London and Manchester it's still a struggle to get decent 4G yet --there are providers but the contracts were handed out in such a cackhanded way that the WORST service provider (EE) gets the largest slice of the cake. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #130


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.
    No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.
    Yes , that's what boils down to. Google is working on a project to provide most of Africa with internet using solar powered drones and balloons. There's about 1% of Africa covered by internet. Even best of European countries are lagging in internet speed after South Korea but N Korea is close to nothing. There are many other examples like that.
    Here, in Belgrade, we have good cable and optical network only in the center, I live 12 KM from center and have to settle for WiFI because cable is pits.
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