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Microsoft as a Subscription?

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  • Yes, Great idea, could make things a bit cheaper in the long run

    4 4.40%
  • No, horrible idea, WTH are they thinking?

    68 74.73%
  • Maybe, Depends on the features and price

    19 20.88%
  1. #111


    no way cause i can just see them pulling what apple did in the past. scan your system and remove apps they don't approve of.

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  2. #112


    And to willingly let another SPY in my home ?????
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  3. #113


    I'm afraid if I had a subscription, I would cancel it after an incident of ineptness by MS like the 8.1 Update fiasco - then be sorry later and have to give in to them. It's a losing situation for me. The way it is, I don't have to take any action - just bitch now and then.
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  4. #114


    Southern California
    Posts : 788
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center x64


    1. You could lease a car... pay to drive it and when the lease is over, 'upgrade' and lease a newer model.

    2. Or you could buy a car and own it, pay once (one price once, or one price over a period of time), and keep it for a long time without having to pay anymore than the original amount.

    Conclusion: Newer may be better, and cheaper at first, but you have to constantly keep paying to use it. The second option has it where you can have the thing until it breaks, but it may cost more initially.

    I for one prefer owning things, to paying for a service. The next guy might prefer the newest and greatest, and desire instead to subscribe for the content. So it all depends upon what you value more. I voted 'No'.
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  5. #115


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    There is a leaked screenshot of some internal list of current projects and a listing of Windows 365 was shown to be in alpha stage.

    Let's all shut up and take an actual logical approach to this before raising a pitchfork whilst sitting in your rocking chairs about how you should own the things you buy.

    Office 365 started initially as being more purely for businesses and enterprise who already use Office. At the time, licensing costs were extraordinary for each single PC, hence meaning long term plans of upgrading, for example 2003 to 2010, or 2007 to whenever the next version will be. Basically, newer versions sometimes get glossed over unless if features are worth the while, like in Excel 2013.

    This is the crux of the issue Microsoft has had for quite some time. Enterprises don't upgrade systems on any frequent basis. It's more or less along the lines of "if it works, don't fix it." This means using a platform well after it should have ceases to exists, hence the 30+ percent marketshare a 13 year old operating system has. That is a problem not only for Microsoft in both expenses and effort, but a problem for enterprises as those out dated platforms can and usually have serious flaws that can affect security and obviously performance. So how does one solve this? The obvious answer isn't the current method of paying upwards of thousands to millions of dollars every eight or so years to upgrade and nothing in between.

    The answer is what Office 365 did, introduce a lower cost subscription model that allows for multiples copies of that one license on a yearly annual basis that also includes continual support and allows the end user to upgrade versions without a new license. So instead of paying millions for a large enterprise to upgrade only once in maybe a decade (not a good idea to do these days), they can instead pay actually less over that decade for maybe three releases of Windows.

    Every major organization and government over the past year has sung praises of Office 365 and how it actually decreases long term costs because they get new versions of Office, multiple seats of it, decreased IT costs in figuring out how to implement googly docs and less frustration of the end user trying to deal with google docs. Windows 365 is an actual good answer to the problem because it lowers the argument that Linux distros should be used for the lack of cost, but as anyone here should know, when you have a Microsoft bred enterprise from SharePoint to Outlook servers to Windows Servers and Windows clients, a switch to Linux and open source means a crapton of headaches in the implementation, crapton of gripes with end users trying to figure a TOTALLY different beast out, let alone the continual issues both software and hardware can arise.

    I say, in that sense, yes I support subscription based Windows for enterprise for sure.

    As for the consumer side, that's yet to be known. Microsoft didn't push for Office 365 until it became more popular, so we'll see what will happen. I doubt they will push for Windows 365 as it doesn't have a ton of benefits for common consumers other than multiple seats of Windows...
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  6. #116


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Let's all shut up and take an actual logical approach to this before raising a pitchfork whilst sitting in your rocking chairs about how you should own the things you buy.
    I'm sorry, but no opinions will be suppressed today.
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  7. #117


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Let's all shut up and take an actual logical approach to this before raising a pitchfork whilst sitting in your rocking chairs about how you should own the things you buy.
    I'm sorry, but no opinions will be suppressed today.
    Not even your opinion of an opinion?
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  8. #118


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    There is a leaked screenshot of some internal list of current projects and a listing of Windows 365 was shown to be in alpha stage.

    Let's all shut up and take an actual logical approach to this before raising a pitchfork whilst sitting in your rocking chairs about how you should own the things you buy.

    Office 365 started initially as being more purely for businesses and enterprise who already use Office. At the time, licensing costs were extraordinary for each single PC, hence meaning long term plans of upgrading, for example 2003 to 2010, or 2007 to whenever the next version will be. Basically, newer versions sometimes get glossed over unless if features are worth the while, like in Excel 2013.

    ...
    ...
    I would have given some rep for this post but as repping in News is not possible, I just thank you here. Well said.

    Kari
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  9. #119


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    I think Coke Robot has missed the point here.

    It doesn't matter if the service exists now or not. The point of these posts is to guage opinion as to whether the market would be receptive to introducing this type of service or not. Just a variation on the old Marketing theme --test an idea and see whether people can be bought round or whether it just won't fly.

    One thing though is 100% certain -- this type of service would only be bought in if Ms thought it would be a money spinner - otherwise why would they even bother thinking about it.

    The other problem though I have with subscription services is that you are often locked in to a vendor and when the initial "Sucker them in" sweet deals finish you could end up paying more than you bargained for. It's the same with Mobile phones, "Special" Bank current accounts, Broadband services etc.

    The deals invariably contain a lot of stuff you DON'T want or need -- for instance instead of paying say 50 EUR a month for unlimited texts (which I never use anyway), 2 Petabytes of data download (who uses mobile phones for mega data downloads !!) or 15,000 hours of talk time (if you spend that much time on a phone there's something seriously wrong with you) why can't I have a more reasonable deal say 25EUR a month for say 600 mins free talk time, no free texts and say 1GB data download. Those sort of plans just don't exist -- I could take a pay as you go Sim but these have an annoying habit of running out at the most inconvenient times although for casual users they are cheaper.

    Like all these things be very careful in what you wish for.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #120


    Another problem with subscription type is that they are forgetting that at least half of places in the world are not set up for easy payments over internet. I for instance, would have to do a lot (with cost going with it) to get international credit card (which here costs a lot to maintain) suffer thru money exchange (there's few percent loss in that) than notify bank about transfer so they release exact amount and that they charge for too. With all that I may end up paying twice what a person in US would and there's no way I could afford that even if I wanted to.
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