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Microsoft's new Windows cadence: Once a year is not enough

  1. #21


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I've never bothered with imaging. I have nothing against doing it, its just not something I do. I can do a clean install pretty easily and pretty quick these days anyway.
    Like in 20 minutes with all the updates, all programs reinstalled and updated and all settings redone ?? Because 20 minutes is what it takes to roll in an image.

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Well I'm saying I think they may be leaning/heading that way. I'm not saying they're there yet.
    AFAIK, MS does not plan direct integration between devices, such as desktop and Windows phone. For the last two years, they have not budged when it comes to sync between the desktop and phone. Or more accurately, between the desktop and phone calendars, contacts, etc.
    Hi guys. Apps do indeed sync across all/any device one uses as long as one signs into the devices with an MS account.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    It's hard to imagine that they will, when MS sells the Office 365 Small Business and Office 365 Small Business Premium, respectively $60 and $150 per year, that integrates with Windows phones.
    There is indeed a version of Office on WP8 which comes included on the phone. I'm not going to say it's free, for it's absorbed in the price of the phone. One can sync/store files via OneDrive or other cloud service. OneNote also.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    For what its worth, I have an android phone (Galaxy S3) and wound getting a program called Companion Link. Got if for 39, normally 49 bucks. However it does wi-fi, wired, or cloud syncing. It syncs contacts, mail, calenders and folders, in addition to notes, which is mainly why I got it.
    Thanks for the tip, but it's a bit on the pricey side, especially when you get the phone for fifty bucks. Nor it is that important. If it would've been, I'd be better off staying with the iPhone, where syncing with Outlook was/is a free app.
    I didn’t put out a penny to do any of this and can perform more.
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  3. #23


    I'm not onboard with these frequent updates. It's too hard to deal with, especially in the enterprise business. Now I have machines running Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 8.1 update 1. I much prefer a longer software lifecycle.
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  4. #24


    VA USA
    Posts : 349
    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I've never bothered with imaging. I have nothing against doing it, its just not something I do. I can do a clean install pretty easily and pretty quick these days anyway.
    Like in 20 minutes with all the updates, all programs reinstalled and updated and all settings redone ?? Because 20 minutes is what it takes to roll in an image.
    LOL ain't gona touch it
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    I've never bothered with imaging. I have nothing against doing it, its just not something I do. I can do a clean install pretty easily and pretty quick these days anyway.
    Reasons that I image
    #1). Don't have to go through activation again
    #2). Don't have to run Windows update and wait quite as long
    #3). Don't have to reinstall a bunch of hardware drivers and get something tested and working.

    Overall, installing Windows is pretty easy and straight-forward. I just prefer to not do it if I don't have to.
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm not onboard with these frequent updates. It's too hard to deal with, especially in the enterprise business. Now I have machines running Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 8.1 update 1. I much prefer a longer software lifecycle.
    I agree. I'm all for quicker updates, but this is too quick.

    It should be release a major Windows version every two years. After that first year is up of the new version, release a x.5 update kind of like 8.1 except would be called 8.5. The year after that, new and major Windows version, such as Windows 9. The x.5 update should be distributed through Windows Update versus the Store to make slipstreaming easier into a custom image and make it less difficult to deploy. That there, the x.5 update is the objective to get deployed as an update and not make things go screwy. Maybe don't do a WDDM driver update to screw with graphics drivers, or other deep system tweaks that might break application/driver functions.

    So basically in October of 2012, release Windows 8. In October 2013, release Windows 8.5. In October 2014, release Windows 9.

    Two reasons for this, it keeps Windows on a faster cycle of releases which is good for the most part, but it also keeps in line with Windows Phone. If you had a Windows Phone on a two year contract, once that's up you can get a Windows Phone 9 handset (or the update) and have Windows 9 in tandem. It'll keep the two in sync. Right now, it's all over the place. Windows 8.1 just got an update and will get another this fall. Windows Phone 8.1 will barely be released by May or June for RTM. It's all out of sync. One gets a big update while the other waits and vice versa. It's quick but it's a pace that can be kept up with and is reliable. If Windows 8 isn't suited for an enterprise, wait two years for Windows 9.
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  7. #27


    I think the primary catalyst for these fast releases is that they are honing Windows 8 to make it more user friendly to a variety of people. They unfortunately released Windows 8 before people were ready for a change, and sadly they tried to force feed certain ways of doing things on their end users. Many turned up their noses and MS felt the sting. They have slowly been putting back these features and options to appeal to a wider market.

    However, new versions of Windows have been a bit difficult for businesses. For example, I love 8 because of the embedded keys. Makes installs and activations and absolute breeze. But the 8.1 upgrade caused problems with SCCM, and now the 8.1 update 1 was actually pulled from WSUS because after an install, clients can no longer use WSUS/SCCM because the upgrade forces TLS 1.2 and SCCM/WSUS do not support that. It's been a bit of a rocky road.
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  8. #28


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    I've never bothered with imaging. I have nothing against doing it, its just not something I do. I can do a clean install pretty easily and pretty quick these days anyway.
    Reasons that I image
    #1). Don't have to go through activation again
    #2). Don't have to run Windows update and wait quite as long
    #3). Don't have to reinstall a bunch of hardware drivers and get something tested and working.

    Overall, installing Windows is pretty easy and straight-forward. I just prefer to not do it if I don't have to.
    • Plus don't have to reinstall all your programs and their updates
    • And don't have to redo all the system and program settings


    Last time I reinstalled a Vista system it took me 3 days until everything was as before. I really prefer to roll in an image in 20 minutes. You may call me lazy, LOL.
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  9. #29


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    Who is the fairest if I may ask?"

    "Why you are, you brilliant PC user!"
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  10. #30


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Well I'm saying I think they may be leaning/heading that way. I'm not saying they're there yet.
    AFAIK, MS does not plan direct integration between devices, such as desktop and Windows phone. For the last two years, they have not budged when it comes to sync between the desktop and phone. Or more accurately, between the desktop and phone calendars, contacts, etc.
    Hi guys. Apps do indeed sync across all/any device one uses as long as one signs into the devices with an MS account.



    There is indeed a version of Office on WP8 which comes included on the phone. I'm not going to say it's free, for it's absorbed in the price of the phone. One can sync/store files via OneDrive or other cloud service. OneNote also.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    For what its worth, I have an android phone (Galaxy S3) and wound getting a program called Companion Link. Got if for 39, normally 49 bucks. However it does wi-fi, wired, or cloud syncing. It syncs contacts, mail, calenders and folders, in addition to notes, which is mainly why I got it.
    Thanks for the tip, but it's a bit on the pricey side, especially when you get the phone for fifty bucks. Nor it is that important. If it would've been, I'd be better off staying with the iPhone, where syncing with Outlook was/is a free app.
    I didn’t put out a penny to do any of this and can perform more.
    Happy for you
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