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Start Menu will reportedly return to Windows 8.1 this fall

  1. #41


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    Start Menu will reportedly return to Windows 8.1 this fall

    Personally, it doesn't matter to me what they do, I'll mess around with anything MS throws out there!

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  2. #42


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I didn't like 8.0 at all, it just didn't work for me on my desktop with multi monitors. Metro Apps were so restricted. 8.1 changed all that for me. Flipping the Start Menu around so programs install to All Apps screen was the icing on the cake for me. It's much easier to pin the couple of shortcuts I do use than unpinning all the ones I don't use. Paint balling all the shortcuts for an installed program to the main Start Screen was my main peeve. That and metro being limited to one monitor only. The list goes on for 8.0. Snap was another issue, on my 1280x1024 LCD's Metro Snap was not an option. Now I can snap two Apps on those screens and 3 on my main 1080P monitor. That's 7 apps if I want in 8.1 versus 2 in 8.0.

    It's all mute if you don't intend to use a metro App though. For spite or whatever. Some just like to complain, that's life. I don't get the Live ID paranoia either. If that kind of stuff bothers you then why even go on the internet in the first place? Why even bother with Windows 8.x, why not just stay with Windows 7? < I take that last comment back, some. Granted if you buy new that's likely what your stuck with but if you do have a choice why install 8.x and then bitch about it? < I'll likely regret saying that, but that's how I feel at this particular moment. I did it in the past several times. I tried all of the previews and went back to Windows 7 numerous times. It just wasn't worth the aggravation of running 8.0. Once I tried 8.1 though, it worked for me so I kept it.
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  3. #43


    Anyway, windows is getting dumber. Its all those little details that is destroying good windows name, like disabling uac now requires editing registry, sharing internet via wifi can be done via cmd only, plus you cannot simply connect to any wifi spot, and so on. Its not enough now to bring start menu back, its only 1/100 things that needs to be fixed.
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  4. #44


    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Anyway, windows is getting dumber. Its all those little details that is destroying good windows name, like disabling uac now requires editing registry, sharing internet via wifi can be done via cmd only, plus you cannot simply connect to any wifi spot, and so on. Its not enough now to bring start menu back, its only 1/100 things that needs to be fixed.

    Well yes however I would guess that 95% of Desktop and Notebook users have any Idea what you just said! More that enough reason that MS has made these security things a little tougher at least enough that you need to understand what and way you are changing these settings. So I don't disagree with MS on the 1/100 security issues you just said. The Start menu is quite another thing. I guess the Noobs will not know the difference. The rest of us will do what we have done Make the changes we need and use 3rd part apps for a start menu. For myself the metro interface is useless I have no plans to learn it. It seems that there were security issues with the gadgets we were using in Window 7? I never quite figured out why? but I continue using the ones I like even now in 8.11, The Meto Apps appear that they could replace gadgets if we could use them on our desktops, While assuming that they are less of a Security issue than gadgets?
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    I still don't know why so many are stuck to desktop itself, I see it maybe 2 -3 times a day, never had any use for gadgets either, it meant that i had to close all open windows (and sometimes there's plenty of them) just to see any gadget. Miss only Aero but because of looks only and would never go to any extent to get that back.
    Sometimes, it seems to me that most people just sit there all day just looking at and admire a nice picture they placed on desktop. Start page can be set as menu for all the desktop programs and be just a click away without having to close and than open windows.
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  6. #46


    Yep, gadgets are useless for me too, you can always see time in taskbar, and other things are just useless.
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  7. #47


    Welcome to Windows EightForums, nonono.

    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Anyway, windows is getting dumber. Its all those little details that is destroying good windows name, ……..
    It may seem like that to you or any other techie, but actually MS/Windows is getting smarter.

    Have you ever worked in a tech company support department? Let me give you an example right off the bat. I have a nephew that works for AT&T in the cellular division. As you know, AT&T had the exclusive sales contract for the first iPhone. That encompassed a certain amount of support. People would be calling/contacting support with such problems with things such as calls being cut short due to faulty antennae design, the battery doesn’t hold a charge, “How do I do this?”, “How do I do that?” etc. Items that really had nothing to do with their AT&T cellular service. Needless to say that they lost their butts on the exclusive.

    Basically the same with MS. How much do you think it cost MS for support that really has to do with OEMs faulty drivers and/or software and/or users messing with their systems? A lot, so they at least started moving items so as to be more difficult to change.

    …….like disabling uac now requires editing registry, …..
    Not all true. A Registry edit is needed, but can also be performed by option 2 here: UAC - Enable or Disable for Built-in Administrator Account. UAC is one of the most important security features of Windows. Again, MS made it difficult to turn off and for good reason. Dangerous to swich it off IMO.

    …….sharing internet via wifi can be done via cmd only……..
    Simply not true. Control Panel > Network and sharing center > Click on the WiFi connection > Properties > Sharing tab > Check the box “Allow other people to connect through this computer’s Internet connection”.

    Click image for larger version

    ………………plus you cannot simply connect to any wifi spot, ……
    What on earth are you stating here?! You must be kidding, right?

    …….and so on. Its not enough now to bring start menu back, its only 1/100 things that needs to be fixed.
    A lot of us have learned and use the system as is. We find it to be very efficient, so we don’t need no stinkin’ Start Menu or alter it in any way.

    Could you please list the other 96 items? We would be more than happy to teach you the system.
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  8. #48


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I still don't know why so many are stuck to desktop itself, I see it maybe 2 -3 times a day, never had any use for gadgets either, it meant that i had to close all open windows (and sometimes there's plenty of them) just to see any gadget. Miss only Aero but because of looks only and would never go to any extent to get that back.
    Sometimes, it seems to me that most people just sit there all day just looking at and admire a nice picture they placed on desktop. Start page can be set as menu for all the desktop programs and be just a click away without having to close and than open windows.


    Hi there

    (No offence please) - but if you aren't using the desktop you IMO obviously haven't worked in say things like Advertising/ Marketing, Engineering, Video production, Journalism, Stock Market Trading, FOREX, Professional Photography, Publishing, Research and development where things like CAD are used, Planning, Logistics, Architecture -- and a whole slew of other stuff.

    Maybe at HOME if people want basically just to do casual surfing, email and watch a movie or two then understandable - but there's a whole host of stuff out there that needs fully desktop compliant computers - and usually these days with SEVERAL monitors too.

    Actually in some cases "gadgets" could be quite useful -- for example in journalism you might want a video ticker for the latest stuff coming out of the agencies, or for Stock trading you would want real time display of specific stocks - although you probably would be using level 2 real time displays !!.

    I get the impression that because some people don't see the need for a "feature" they dismiss it as useless. That's probably the trouble with the Internet and Google today -- it's very easy to get small pieces of info very quickly but often "the bigger picture" can get missed.

    Cheers
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  9. #49


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    Sorry if this has been mentioned, but how would this change affect people who use touch and mouse on the same device

    eg
    80% of the time I use my laptop with a mouse, so this change doesn't make much difference
    The other 20% of the time I will use my laptop using the touch interface (this change looks a lot harder too use)

    I assume it will know the difference between a touch only device and a mouse only one and give the designed layout, but some devices use both these options
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    Here we are talking about windows, i didnt say that other companies are able to make smart decisions, god no. I said, that microsoft with windows 8 made many bad decisions, instead of improving rock solid windows 7 base, they decided to chase butterflies and do that mobile ui for desktops and other bad decisions. Again, that wouldnt had gone so bad, if they would gave people a choise from the very beginning, or did like apple - same kernel and stuff, but different ui and so on for mobile devices and desktop. They became so smart, that they gone dumb again.

    From Turn your Windows 8.1 PC into a Wifi Router/Hotspot via Connectify
    "The users who have recently upgraded from Windows 7/8 to 8.1 will notice that there are no ad hoc WI-Fi connections available in it. They will not find the user interface to set up their ad hoc connection in the Network and Sharing Center."
    There is no more a way to connect or create ad hoc network via GUI, you must use cmd.

    And no, i will not tech you robots how to adopt to other people needs, i am fully capable of deciding what i want to use, and will not use what other people want me to use. Its like a magic trick, if you know how to do it, then you know, but if you dont, then your mind just blows up every time you see that trick Same about things, that ms screwed in windows, if you notice them, then you know them, if you dont, then there is no point in discussing about it.
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