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Start Menu will reportedly return to Windows 8.1 this fall

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    ~sigh~

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there

    If you run Windows 8.1 as a GUEST Machine (as a Virtual Machine) in Unity mode you actually have a decent menu system already

    The Metro apps are listed in the drop down as shown in the screenshot at the lower end of the list. (I'm running W8.1 update 1 as a VM on OPENSUSE Linux 13.1 with in this case a KDE desktop - but you can use GNOME, LXDE or whatever your desktop GUI choice is).

    The Metro apps run as they are supposed to - and you cam still send these to the background as the UNITY menu is still accessible (for running "Normal" or "Metro" apps). Unity menu can be hidden / re-accessed via pinning / unpinning it or move cursor to top left of screen if you want total full screen app.

    screenshots enc

    This actually makes the whole Metro system much better than in "Native Windows" i.e Windows NOT running as a VM

    If you don't want to pay for VMWARE WORKSTATION it works just as well with VMware player --FREE but download the latest version

    In theory should work with VBOX too but haven't tried. Used VMWARE for too many years to change now and VMware has always worked for me.

    There's only one niggle -- the Store app starts all by itself -- simply close the wretched thing down.(just close item on task bar at bottom of screen)


    (Added Sport screenshot in next post instead of the News shot)

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Hi @Brink

    Wasn't intended to convey any politics -- was just showing Metro function

    I'll choose another image (sport app - that should be OK)

    You can run several of these concurrently which actually makes them useful --especially if you have a multi-monitor setup.

    see next post

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Hi there
    3rd screenshot -- two metro apps running together with Desktop mode

    sport and finance apps running

    Had to do it in 3 posts because of screen image size upload limits.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Being honest I not really a fan of Metro apps & the start screen, I personally would like the start menu back only if if doesn't have the live tiles as shown in the MS mock up image or at least have the option to remove them & just have the standard start menu.

    MS should have given users the choice of either start menu or start screen right from the start, if they had done that then there would have been a lot less hate for Win 8x.
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    I can't help the feeling I get when I see the start menu with those darned metro apps included... I get the sense that yet again they are trying some sleight of hand to con us all.

    It's like despite the disastrous fiasco that was win 8, they haven't learned a damn thing.
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    Yeah I get that feeling as well, it almost like MS are saying here is the damn start button button back but just to wind you up it will take you to the start screen & here is the damn start menu back but with added tiles

    I know some like metro & the start screen but many more don't like it like myself but at least they added options to bypass it & boot right to the desktop.

    Maybe if we get enough folk with burning torches & pitchforks they will bring back aero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banzi View Post
    Yeah I get that feeling as well, it almost like MS are saying here is the damn start button button back but just to wind you up it will take you to the start screen & here is the damn start menu back but with added tiles

    I know some like metro & the start screen but many more don't like it like myself but at least they added options to bypass it & boot right to the desktop.

    Maybe if we get enough folk with burning torches & pitchforks they will bring back aero

    Unlike the Start Screen versus Menu fiasco I doubt you'd find too many people complaining. Besides, I think there's still some kind of Aero presence in Windows 8/8.1- it just doesn't resource drain as heavily on weaker systems.
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  9. #29


    The Start Menu is archaic as is the desktop. The new system is much quicker and safer.

    Post your Desktop

    Big change ahead
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    The Start Menu is archaic as is the desktop. The new system is much quicker and safer.

    Post your Desktop

    Big change ahead
    Hi there

    Not Always !!! Sometimes a properly constructed customizeable (and above all CASCADING) Menu is still the quickest way to access apps -- the Tile system fails quite obviously when you have say Program X with a lot of sub programs and sub sub programs and sub sub sub programs etc which are not necessarily in any sort of alphabetical order) nor could they be.

    The tile system works best for SIMPLE application geared to a SINGLE task and also when you don't have too many applications == it's also passable for touch devices.

    The desktop itself is certainly NOT archaic - certainly not if you are into any sort of Engineering design / research etc - and millions more obvious applications like that too. Even architecture where you want to explode several parts of a drawing, rotate some etc etc. desktop works best where you need to do a significant amount of multi-tasking.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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