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  1. #91


    Start Screen or app specific > Charms > Settings > Help > Read. Not very difficult. However, one IT pro member here once stated that no one reads those. What?!!!

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  2. #92


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Start Screen or app specific > Charms > Settings > Help > Read. Not very difficult. However, one IT pro member here once stated that no one reads those. What?!!!
    Well, not everyone understands English good enough to understand most of "Computereese" language, that can be pretty confusing for some people too. Another thing is that some translations are way out and bear no resemblance to either English or that particular language. You should see how mutilated translations are English to Serbian. I speak both languages fluently but some words lost everything in translation to Serbian, can't make heads or tails of what they might mean. In addition, most computer and OS parts names come from real life things from before computers but are also in a particular or localized slang that usually can not be found in school books where most people learn English as a second or even third language.
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  3. #93


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    That brings to mind one thing that really annoys me. Start Rant. You can't remove any of the Apps listed in the store under "Your Apps" from that list. When I got my ASUS laptop I logged in with my Live ID. Now all the factory installed Apps / bloat ware are listed in My Apps in the Store. Most of which I never used and promptly uninstalled. Also if you try an App and don't like it, its listed under your My Apps forever and a day. My "My Apps" section of the Windows Store is basically useless as its cluttered with useless Apps I will never use. Rant over.
    I agree with you in that one should have the option of clearing the list or at least partial. However, there are the categories of installed and not installed in the list options one can choose.

    Perhaps they treat more like a bank account. One cannot clear what is on the debit or credit side of a ledger. It may also aid in that if one wanted to reinstall the app because of change of mind and it becomes a paid for app in the meantime, then one can continue to install for free. It just occurred to me that this would also include paid apps as well.
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  4. #94


    USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Perhaps they treat more like a bank account. One cannot clear what is on the debit or credit side of a ledger.
    LOL I should have sort you out when I was doing my accounting finals
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  5. #95


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I was wandering too, what's wrong with having more options ? Specially when they lead to same program and not duplicating the program.
    It's not about having more options, it's about having a redundancy IN ORDER to get to more options. PC Settings is supposed to do what? Have all the settings for your PC. Yet, there is a link to the Control Panel because it doesn't have all the settings for your PC. So then, why would there even be a need for PC Settings to begin with if the Control Panel ALREADY has all of them except some of the modern controls like Lock Screen settings?

    Either dump all the Control Panel settings and options into PC Settings or get out. It's so stupid to have a link to the Control Panel from a different control panel. Make one to be the ONLY one.
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  6. #96


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    That brings to mind one thing that really annoys me. Start Rant. You can't remove any of the Apps listed in the store under "Your Apps" from that list. When I got my ASUS laptop I logged in with my Live ID. Now all the factory installed Apps / bloat ware are listed in My Apps in the Store. Most of which I never used and promptly uninstalled. Also if you try an App and don't like it, its listed under your My Apps forever and a day. My "My Apps" section of the Windows Store is basically useless as its cluttered with useless Apps I will never use. Rant over.
    I agree with you in that one should have the option of clearing the list or at least partial. However, there are the categories of installed and not installed in the list options one can choose.

    Perhaps they treat more like a bank account. One cannot clear what is on the debit or credit side of a ledger. It may also aid in that if one wanted to reinstall the app because of change of mind and it becomes a paid for app in the meantime, then one can continue to install for free. It just occurred to me that this would also include paid apps as well.
    No doubt they are locked so you can't delete a paid for App that is tied to your Live ID. It wouldn't be that hard to just give a warning though when you go to delete one of those. It shouldn't be a big deal to remove a free one from the list though. I think the original intent was so you could easily reinstall paid for Apps without having to rebuy or fill in your billing info all over again. If you just did a clean install they are all going to show up as uninstalled so that filter isn't going to help much. My "Your Apps" is so cluttered I don't even bother looking at it anymore, its basically useless to me. It could have been a really useful feature.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 15 Apr 2014 at 15:29.
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  7. #97


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Perhaps they treat more like a bank account. One cannot clear what is on the debit or credit side of a ledger.
    LOL I should have sort you out when I was doing my accounting finals
    Well, I'm not a certified bean counter, but I know a little bit about counting beans.

    BTW, Happy Tax Day, my fellow Americans!

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  8. #98


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I was wandering too, what's wrong with having more options ? Specially when they lead to same program and not duplicating the program.
    It's not about having more options, it's about having a redundancy IN ORDER to get to more options. PC Settings is supposed to do what? Have all the settings for your PC. Yet, there is a link to the Control Panel because it doesn't have all the settings for your PC. So then, why would there even be a need for PC Settings to begin with if the Control Panel ALREADY has all of them except some of the modern controls like Lock Screen settings?

    Either dump all the Control Panel settings and options into PC Settings or get out. It's so stupid to have a link to the Control Panel from a different control panel. Make one to be the ONLY one.
    Some of us added yet another way to Windows innards, it's called "God Mode", mine right now has 243 entries grouped by their use. As I said before, I like choices like that, which ever environment I'm in, I can do things without first closing bunch of windows first.
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  9. #99


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I was wandering too, what's wrong with having more options ? Specially when they lead to same program and not duplicating the program.
    It's not about having more options, it's about having a redundancy IN ORDER to get to more options. PC Settings is supposed to do what? Have all the settings for your PC. Yet, there is a link to the Control Panel because it doesn't have all the settings for your PC. So then, why would there even be a need for PC Settings to begin with if the Control Panel ALREADY has all of them except some of the modern controls like Lock Screen settings?

    Either dump all the Control Panel settings and options into PC Settings or get out. It's so stupid to have a link to the Control Panel from a different control panel. Make one to be the ONLY one.
    Who said PC Settings has to have all the settings for your PC? Other than you that is. It looks to me that PC Settings deals primarily with the Metro side of things and Control Panel deals with the Desktop side. Last time I checked they hadn't been combined into one UI.
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  10. #100


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I was wandering too, what's wrong with having more options ? Specially when they lead to same program and not duplicating the program.
    It's not about having more options, it's about having a redundancy IN ORDER to get to more options. PC Settings is supposed to do what? Have all the settings for your PC. Yet, there is a link to the Control Panel because it doesn't have all the settings for your PC. So then, why would there even be a need for PC Settings to begin with if the Control Panel ALREADY has all of them except some of the modern controls like Lock Screen settings?

    Either dump all the Control Panel settings and options into PC Settings or get out. It's so stupid to have a link to the Control Panel from a different control panel. Make one to be the ONLY one.
    Who said PC Settings has to have all the settings for your PC? Other than you that is. It looks to me that PC Settings deals primarily with the Metro side of things and Control Panel deals with the Desktop side. Last time I checked they hadn't been combined into one UI.
    Then why call PC Settings "PC Settings" if it doesn't have all of your PC Settings? PC Settings deals with both the modern and Desktop aspects of things, the Control Panel just has a lot more in terms of depth of settings.

    It seems pointless that from Windows 8 to 8.1, they made PC Settings from something with just basic settings to almost like...70-80 percent of the Control Panel only to just turn around and put a link to it from PC Settings. That to me is just lazy. It's like if they were to say, "Oh yeah, we were going to finish PC Settings and have everything right there, but in the meantime, here's the Control Panel!"

    Bunch of hogwash.
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