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Can the new Windows 8.1 bring back users?

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    Can the new Windows 8.1 bring back users?


    First, because I can't resist, let me just say "I told you so!"

    I'd said all along that Windows 8's Metro interface was downright awful for desktop users. I was right. Windows 8 saw PC sales plummet to their worst level in a generation. Under new leadership, Microsoft has finally bought a clue and is retrofitting Windows 8.x's Metro/Modern desktop with a much more keyboard- and mouse-friendly Windows, Icon, Menu, and Pointer (WIMP) interface.
    I can only ask, "What took you so long Microsoft?" Popular programs, such as Stardock's Start8, showed that Windows power users craved their Start Menu. Besides, Windows 8.x's abysmal usage numbers were even worse than Microsoft's previous all-time operating system flop, Vista. It doesn't take the next coming of GE CEO genius Jack Welch to realize when a core product has failed.
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    USA/Tenn/Oak Ridge
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    Win 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    I just performed the upgrade to "update one". So far, it's .. well, Ok. Is it a great improvement. No.. not in my opinion. The ability to go directly into the desktop was there with 8.1 and I like that. Begin able to pin apps to the task bar is also nice as is the organization of the start screen.

    That's about 3 things that I like about update one. The rest are nice but minor, IMO. Overall, I like the changes but I want to see Windows 9 and see what direction MS is going with that OS.

    Jeff
    PS, Link to get updates:
    How to download and install Windows 8.1 Update 1 for free (right now) | ExtremeTech
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    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I don't think they can rake up more support apart from the poor souls that buy new PCs and don't know better. Even my goverment warns against using 8 and 8.1. It was all over the 8 o'clock news in national TV. With that kind of support they will be going nowhere.

    With the 8.1.1 enhancements it may be a bit better, but the inherent problems remain and many people have already alternate strategies - especially the big customers and goverment agencies. The Windows 8 reputation is down the drain and no bit of paint will revive it.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Easy, release a new version of Windows (let's call it 9) that is quite similar to the previous version but better and problem solved!

    Worked with vista didn't it?...
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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Yea I think public perception of 8(et al) is a done deal, it simply cannot rebound. Those who like it will continue to sing its praises, long after they have switched to 9.

    The rest of us will forget it rather quickly.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    Been "Linux-yfing" myself recently -- amazing if you pit your mind to it how many programs you can run on Linux these days -and with the whole install mechanism is now incredibly easy -- often just one line -- apt-get install xxxxx where all the dependencies etc are all managed. There's GUI's around also.

    In fact it's only PHOTOSHOP CS6 (although I'm told around 95% of it works on WINE - so I'll try that -- probably good enough) and OFFICE 201- where I still need Windows for myself -- GIMP and Libre Office aren't good enough yet especially for pre-press pics and EXCEL power users. I also need to connect to some corporate I.T systems so I'll run Windows VM's.

    My latest 3 conversions -- CALIBRE e-book reader WITH DE-DRM so I can get Kindle drm'd books converted to drm free epub to load into my SONY E-reader - buy the books from amazon and then store in the Sony !!, LOGITECH MEDIA SEVER which
    streams music and Internet radio to various hardware devices I have around the house - from the old Logitech SQUEEZE system and HANDBRAKE which is a decently OK DVD ripping program.

    Still to go : AnyDVD but this might run on WINE - left on the Windows VM.enc

    With Linux you can still have plasma /Aero /3d and Menus in any shape or form.

    Scrshot here :

    Ms really did hose up the people who want a DESKTOP OS. You could make W8.1 "sort of work" bit I didn't like the way they were pushing the new "Metro" interface.

    I don't like the idea either of a potential CLOUD OS - probably with some sort of subscription model thrown in.

    Desktop running Linux Mint (petra) 16 KDE.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    USA/Tenn/Oak Ridge
    Posts : 245
    Win 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Hey Jimbo.. I like Linux and I've been playing around with it for years. Most recentently I've tried out Netrunner 13.12. While it's easy to set up and use overall there still are aspects that I don't like and I still go back to Windows. I'm not saying it's "bad" but for my requirements Windows meets them better than Linux does at the moment.

    Jeff.....
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    USA/Tenn/Oak Ridge
    Posts : 245
    Win 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Yea I think public perception of 8(et al) is a done deal, it simply cannot rebound. Those who like it will continue to sing its praises, long after they have switched to 9.

    The rest of us will forget it rather quickly.

    Yarp,, You can put a fork in Windows 8 right about now. Nothing can save that turd. I just want to see what MS will do with Windows 9 but I don't think many users will upgrade to it either. Why?? Well most users have no idea on how to update an OS on any PC, Windows or any other OS from what I can tell. Hell, I just got a new PC Thursday and the BIOS was set up to boot to the HD first and not the CD/DVD. I had to adjust that in order to do a clean install of Windows 8.1 on mine. How many "average" users will know how to do that or do and upgrade?? Not that many I bet and the ones that do I bet few would want to risk the issues that might occur with an update.

    Oh,, I really like the new PC and it works great.

    My 2c..
    Peace
    Jeff....
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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Yea I think public perception of 8(et al) is a done deal, it simply cannot rebound. Those who like it will continue to sing its praises, long after they have switched to 9.

    The rest of us will forget it rather quickly.

    Yarp,, You can put a fork in Windows 8 right about now. Nothing can save that turd. I just want to see what MS will do with Windows 9 but I don't think many users will upgrade to it either. Why?? Well most users have no idea on how to update an OS on any PC, Windows or any other OS from what I can tell. Hell, I just got a new PC Thursday and the BIOS was set up to boot to the HD first and not the CD/DVD. I had to adjust that in order to do a clean install of Windows 8.1 on mine. How many "average" users will know how to do that or do and upgrade?? Not that many I bet and the ones that do I bet few would want to risk the issues that might occur with an update.

    Oh,, I really like the new PC and it works great.

    My 2c..
    Peace
    Jeff....
    And ya know, the biggest pity is that it didn't have to be this way, not at all. "Classic Shell" is all the proof anyone ought to need. I find absolutely nothing wrong 8/8.1, once Classic Shell is installed, tifkam buried away from sight. It would have been so very very easy for ms to do this, easy and very logical. Freakin 8 would have been heralded as an amazing piece of software.... instead of what it is viewed as today.

    Pity.
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    N. Calif
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    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    "Popular programs, such as Stardock's Start8, showed that Windows power users craved their Start Menu."

    Windows power users craved? More like, helpless Windows users craved.

    Real power users say, "Start Menu? We don't need no stinkin' Start menu!"
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