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Can the new Windows 8.1 bring back users?

  1. #31


    I wonder if the title of this thread should be: "Can new Window 8.1 DRIVE AWAY even more users"?

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  2. #32


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    Posts : 4,514
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    Jimbo, you need a decent snipping tool. Get Jing and program it to F9 for triggering. Then you can also capture context stuff and virtual systems from the host. See example. And if you want to use a native Mint snipping tool, get Shutter. That is pretty neat too.

    Btw, yesterday I put Mate on a 60GB SSD that I had lying around. Will try to get VMware Player on it.

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  3. #33


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    @ Greg

    Hello there. Your post vanished!

    Agree with everything you said. How about that!

    The sparkle is purely self absorbed love for full screen metro stuff.
    And a new menuing system other than that used since Windows 95.
    7 has the numbers. No doubt about that.

    It's the matter of popularity. Apple types rave in favor of Mac stuff.
    Linux fans are undeterred from support of the UNIX kernel and it's GUI.
    Tablets are the new portable PCs and BYODs.
    8 is a radical departure from the past.

    But it's more than explorer.exe. Code trends are not static. Productive work NOW is exclusively traditional but defining the current paradigm of the 7 desktop as perfected is just fluff. Dynamic Link Libraries when compiled to explorer and the registry has created a security nightmare that requires constant patching to maintain.

    Both Apple and Linux have UNIX kernels and are less attractive to miscreants but no computer OS is totally secure.

    I never got why Surface didn't get designed with ethernet and a better price. A thousand dollars for a tablet is ridiculous. One has to buy accessories?

    So to speak, out in the real world, 8 and 9 will evolve.
    7 will become the new XP.

    So now we're looking at 8, 9 or 10 to 2030.
    I think CPU design will play a role in future OS trends.
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    Greg, did you delete your post ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Greg, did you delete your post ??
    That's what I'm wondering. I copied and pasted it to Word for to answer. Wondering what to do now.....
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    Vista and Win7


    HG, Let's wait what Greg has to say. Maybe he wants you to put it back up or maybe he has deleted it himself.

    Lately posts seem to vanish without anybody telling you anything. I had asked John what is happening here, but he never answered. Pretty uncivilized way to treat members.

    Maybe this post will vanish too. But I have copied it.
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  7. #37


    Yes, I'll wait to be respectful. I can answer to his first post if need be.
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  8. #38


    Posts : 154
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    Yeah I tend to get into rants about Ate because I take it personally that so little self-respect would be given to the real accomplishment of Windows 7, and can begin sounding like a fanboy even though I really do think it is one of the greatest achievements in tech and is what got me involved. So I wanted to take more time to write this.

    I mainly wanted to make the point that Seven being the best OS ever is not a matter of opinion since it is by far the best selling OS ever - even with sales being artifically suppressed now - and wildly popular with consumers who have almost no complaints.

    By comparison most consumers will never even hear the name Linux and only a tiny fraction use an iOS.

    In spite of rumors of its demise, the desktop is where the productive work which drives the world economy is done and is perfected in Windows Seven. However by depriving consumers of the best OS on new desktops, a real attempt has been made to kill it off - intended or not.

    We know that this was done in service to a new business plan that monetizes apps and eventually the OS by subscription, which required an attempt to throw away the desktop and adapt an Ipad social media buttons interface. Now that this is seen by all to be a failure, how about doubling down now instead on what already we know is a smashing success?

    Just giving a fair and even choice will right the ship and point the way for Windows 9.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Just for conversation, do you believe the version of explorer in 7 is better than the explorer in 8?

    And btw, are apps (desktop or otherwise) supposed to be free?
    A fair choice of Operating Systems? Why would OEM's install an OS from 2009 on new tech?

    Does it all boil down to the metro UI? 8.1.1 will drive some to other systems.
    7 is really not that big of a leap in tech advancement. It still uses NT.
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    With an overdue SP2 it wouldn't really be a 2009 OS, and it doesn't show any signs of age anyway.

    I tried to interest others in 8 Explorer improvements and not one liked them. I think it pleases techies only. I thought the graphs were impressive, but it isn't nearly enough to capture consumers.

    Metro makes Rube Goldberg seem simple.
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