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Microsoft is bringing the Start Menu back

  1. #11


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    Windows 8.1 update 1 Pro X64 with WMC


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I can confirm that the Start Menu is not available in the Windows 8.1 Update, but to be released in a future update instead.
    they did say in the other update for 8.1 that's coming later

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  2. #12


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Yeah, I just wanted to clarify this since it may have confused some with it being mentioned along with the discussion of the "Windows 8.1 Update" for the 8th.
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  3. #13


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    I just update my win8.1 enterprise install and very little has changed, visually anyway ,the shutdown option on the start screen, the x to close an app. the store icon on the taskbar ,that can be on pined or setup in taskbar properties ,the all apps icons looks different,not positive of that ,never really used that much anyway
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  4. #14


    Gold Coast (Australia)
    Posts : 702
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    ... and the 'Start Menu' dilemma continues!!!

    this one time, at band camp ...
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  5. #15


    Mt. Crumpit cave
    Posts : 108
    Win 7 Ult X64 SP1


    Andy, do you tell people you install for there is a choice? If they could see both version your results may be the reverse of what you've had. People who need someone to do an install for them may be thinking, oh well, that's just the way it is.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 86
    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    Good move Microsoft. About time they did this. A lot of people like myself use Windows for work. I never needed that modern start menu and I never saw any benefit for me. I don't really use any modern apps, well excluding Mail (have to admit its very convenient to check email quickly and get notified instantly of new messages).

    Ability to have live tiles on the start menu is acceptable. Mail will obviously be in there for me lol. Maybe weather too. I mean if I can still add shortcuts to my documents, music, photos folders, then I give Microsoft an applause.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
    Andy, do you tell people you install for there is a choice? If they could see both version your results may be the reverse of what you've had. People who need someone to do an install for them may be thinking, oh well, that's just the way it is.
    No, since the way I set up the Start Screen and the rest of Windows doesn't constitute a need for a start menu. Everything that was needed from it is on the Start Screen. Everything they need to know about how to use it, I teach them personally. Contrary to popular belief on the interwebs, the people whom I've worked with are quite content with Windows 8. I HAVE, in fact, come across several people who bought a new laptop or tablet PC and were quite frustrated by it. But after my custom image and my help, they're doing quite well. So it's either ME personally doing something right, or the setup is doing something right, or both. I think it's both.

    I just thought of a recent install of 8.1 on a tablet and a couple weeks later when we both met up again and I was learning that person's sister the ways of the Windows Phone, I was asked if instagram can be a "window" on the Start Screen as I explain the whole abridged spiel of Windows 8. They found it nice to have that live tile, windowed content right there quickly and easily.

    But even then with that start menu, it wouldn't matter because again, it doesn't offer anything more or less than the Start Screen. It's just user preference.
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  8. #18


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    Windows 8.1


    Those who already have Classic Shell or Start8 probably aren't overly excited about MS bringing it back. Other than some slight performance penalty and a few quirks (Classic Start hung a few times, search not as robust), the replacement Starts more or less behaves like Windows 7 Start. The live tiles in MS's version is nice but might be annoying.

    What is more exciting is having Metro apps on the desktop. There are a few metro apps I like but, except for games, I don't want them in full screen. Having it on the desktop means there will be no need to visit the Metro shell ever again for laptop/desktop users.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 302
    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by tech View Post
    Those who already have Classic Shell or Start8 probably aren't overly excited about MS bringing it back.
    No, they probably are. Keep in mind they put those on their system to get that functionality back. Also keep in mind that those tools also take constant updates to stay active as they are workarounds that can continually become broken as newer builds are released. Its far better to get rid of third-party tools whenever possible so stuff 'just works'.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tech View Post
    Those who already have Classic Shell or Start8 probably aren't overly excited about MS bringing it back.
    No, they probably are. Keep in mind they put those on their system to get that functionality back. Also keep in mind that those tools also take constant updates to stay active as they are workarounds that can continually become broken as newer builds are released. Its far better to get rid of third-party tools whenever possible so stuff 'just works'.
    I'm not disagreeing with you that MS should have put this in Windows 8 (or just left it there from Windows 7), and native is always better, but in this case, the third party tool is 95% there. And Classic Shell auto-updates. No real-world maintenance required.

    Are you arguing philosophically or pragmatically? Because in my real world usage, Classic Shell does everything I need Start to do. MS bringing back Start would add a slight performance improvement and slightly faster/better search.

    People say things like 'it should just work', and again I agree this is good and that MS did mess up, but if the effort to install Classic Shell is literally 4 minutes, pragmatically, I say so what?

    I just find the huge consternation, rage, and online diatribes over the Start menu overblown. If Classic Shell/Start8 didn't exist or really sucked, I'd be there with you all. But it does exist, and from a pragmatic point, it makes Windows 8 a better Windows 7.
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