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Why Have Most Windows 8 Users Not Upgraded to Windows 8.1?

  1. #81


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Excellent link. I don't have enough disk space though apparently. What do you suggest?

    (only joking btw).

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  2. #82


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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Excellent link. I don't have enough disk space though apparently. What do you suggest?

    (only joking btw).
    Cloud storage? bwa ha ha
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  3. #83


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    Windows8 upgraded to 8.1

    Conclusion...........I think


    I've been reading through this entire thread, and my conclusion is: I don't need 8.1 as long as 8 is working.
    Few days ago, I did upgrade/update to 8.1, and I immediately got issues. First of all my Kaspersky Internet Security 2014 got compatibility problems. I were recommended by support to restore to windows 8 to get latest version, before upgrade to 8.1. (And YES, im aware of that I can use another Antivirus software).
    Then the real problems started......It is now impossible to restore my PC to factory settings. All possible ways to restore through windows has been tried, also creating a restore for an USB stick.
    Asus tells me that on my laptop (Asus S440CA,Intel Core i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80 Ghz 6GB RAM) there is no dedicated partition on HDD for factory restore, this function is in BIOS, which doesn't tell me anything.
    Anyway, this doesn't belong in this thread I guess (please advice me where to put it)

    I am now in the process of doing a clean install of Windows 8 Pro (Windows 8 came with the computer)
    Is there any reason for me NOT to install Pro? And is there ANY reason I need 8.1?

    Rgds.....
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  4. #84


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyafrika View Post
    Asus tells me that on my laptop (Asus S440CA,Intel Core i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80 Ghz 6GB RAM) there is no dedicated partition on HDD for factory restore, this function is in BIOS, which doesn't tell me anything.
    Rgds.....
    I would say you've been misinformed. I own an ASUS K75DE that originally came with Windows 8 Core factory installed. It had a factory installed recovery partition with the factory image of the factory install. I needed a 16 GB thumb drive to create the Recovery drive with the "copy recovery partition from the PC to recovery drive". With that drive you can do a reset and restore the factory image. At least that's what I was told by ASUS. It didn't work for me but that's another story. I had swapped out the factory hard drive for an SSD.

    Your Windows 8 product code is embedded in the BIOS, maybe that's what they were referring to. My TechNet 8.0 ISO's read it out automatically during the install and install Core automatically without prompting me to enter a product code. My embedded code is for 8 core. If yours is for 8 Pro that's what will be installed, assuming you have unaltered official Microsoft install media.
    I've moved on to Windows 8.1. My TechNet 8.1 ISO ignores the embedded 8.0 code and prompts me to enter one. I could install with one of the generic install codes and then activate with my 8.0 code but I just use one of my TechNet 8.1 codes. I have them so I use them. If your PC came with Core and your installing Pro you'll need a valid legal 8 Pro product code.
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  5. #85


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    Windows8 upgraded to 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyafrika View Post
    Asus tells me that on my laptop (Asus S440CA,Intel Core i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80 Ghz 6GB RAM) there is no dedicated partition on HDD for factory restore, this function is in BIOS, which doesn't tell me anything.
    Rgds.....
    I would say you've been misinformed. I own an ASUS K75DE that originally came with Windows 8 Core factory installed. It had a factory installed recovery partition with the factory image of the factory install. I needed a 16 GB thumb drive to create the Recovery drive with the "copy recovery partition from the PC to recovery drive". With that drive you can do a reset and restore the factory image. At least that's what I was told by ASUS. It didn't work for me but that's another story. I had swapped out the factory hard drive for an SSD.

    Your Windows 8 product code is embedded in the BIOS, maybe that's what they were referring to. My TechNet 8.0 ISO's read it out automatically during the install and install Core automatically without prompting me to enter a product code. My embedded code is for 8 core. If yours is for 8 Pro that's what will be installed, assuming you have unaltered official Microsoft install media.
    I've moved on to Windows 8.1. My TechNet 8.1 ISO ignores the embedded 8.0 code and prompts me to enter one. I could install with one of the generic install codes and then activate with my 8.0 code but I just use one of my TechNet 8.1 codes. I have them so I use them. If your PC came with Core and your installing Pro you'll need a valid legal 8 Pro product code.
    I did create a recovery drive using a 16GB thumb drive, but it failed to recover my PC for a to to me, unknown reason. I ended up with an error message saying (translated from Norwegian) "Unable to reset the computer. An neccecary station partition is missing. Also there were referring to an error code: 8000 4005
    I also tried Bactrack from Asus, with no success.
    Last attempt: I got an USB recovery to thumb drive from another ASUS PC, and when prompted I choosed language and keyboard layout, then I choosed the USB drive before next step, and finally I got back to the language and keyboard selection.
    It seems like some files are missing in the recovery made from my own computer, but there may also be other reason option 2 is not working.
    I have access to Windows 8 Pro with valid serial, so that may be my solution.
    Btw, what is TechNet 8.0 ?
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  6. #86


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post

    Sorry to be a pedant (and doubly so if I am wrong). 3gb is 3.221.225.472 bytes or 25.769.803.776 bits. At 55kbps this would take around 5 1/2 days. I guess your speed must be better than you thought (or my arithmetic worse of course). Cheers
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  7. #87


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    @Onlyafrika

    TechNet 8.0 > Windows 8.0 TechNet ISO. I got the "a required partition is missing" error too. For me I just attributed it to my SSD only being 128 GB to the original drives 750 GB. I was able to do a reset to factory condition from the hard drive via F9 on boot. I did it just before swapping out the factory drive for the SSD. It just never worked from the thumb drive with the SSD installed.


    You may find that 8 Core gets installed even though your DVD is 8 Pro. The TechNet ISO's have Core and Pro on them and what is installed is determined by the Product Code you enter. I do believe Retail ISO's work the same way. If you didn't get prompted to enter a product code you will almost certainly end up with 8 Core if that is what was installed by the OEM. Press the Windows logo key and the pause/break key to see what's what. If it is only core and you want pro try clicking on add features and entering your pro key.
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  8. #88


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyafrika View Post
    I've been reading through this entire thread, and my conclusion is: I don't need 8.1 as long as 8 is working.
    No you don't for a few years at least. Apparently support finishes in 2016 but you can fix any issues before then presumably.
    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyafrika View Post
    Is there any reason for me NOT to install Pro? And is there ANY reason I need 8.1?
    Not at all. All versions of 8 are the same - 8 Pro has extra features enabled but if you don't use them it makes no difference. If you aren't interested in the 8.1 changes then don't do it. Personally I prefer 8.1 - you can see the differences here where it says "new" Compare Windows 8.1 Editions Certainly if you don't use the Pro features or 8.1 changes then it doesn't matter.
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  9. #89


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    I also prefer 8.1 over 8.0. It has advantages on my multi monitor setup over 8.0.
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  10. #90


    8.1 is by far a much better system IMO. I'm amazed at how many more features they added in the few short months they did it in. Buggy at first, but with each Patch Tuesday it's been coming along nicely.

    Why people refer to it as an update rather than an upgrade is beyond me. It is a vastly different OS in that it has many more features.
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