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Why Have Most Windows 8 Users Not Upgraded to Windows 8.1?

  1. #141


    Texas
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    It has never been included in the cheaper home and student editions. You need at least the business edition to get outlook.
    Yeah, I think I knew that . . .

    However, Outlook is pretty much wasted on me, even if I've always had the Pro version of Office as far back as Office XP because I wanted Access. Like the Apple operating system, Outlook isn't one of my faves, so it goes begging while I use Thunderbird, which serves my needs.

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  2. #142


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    It has never been included in the cheaper home and student editions. You need at least the business edition to get outlook.
    Yeah, I think I knew that . . .

    However, Outlook is pretty much wasted on me, even if I've always had the Pro version of Office as far back as Office XP because I wanted Access. Like the Apple operating system, Outlook isn't one of my faves, so it goes begging while I use Thunderbird, which serves my needs.
    Hi there.

    "Horses for Courses".

    Outlook works fine for me -- especially if you use it for work as well and need to connect to a few different servers -- work EXCHANGE servers, and two home ISP IMAP accounts - not forgetting easy GMAIL integration too.

    Setting up is an absolute doddle in Outlook 2007/2010. (Hate outlook 2013 though).

    There are LOADS of different email packages - however I will agree that it's not worth buying the EXPENSIVE version of office just to have Outlook included - or even ACCESS -- if you need a database system there are loads of Freebies as well -- although MySQL does a decent job.

    Access when used as a database system has a horrible habit of easily getting broken and it's not at all suited to Multi user operation. It's fine for simple modelling which is what I use it for and then I build a REAL database with MySQL.

    If you run almost ANY Linux system as Host and your Windows as VM's then there are literally 100's of good FREE email programs out there - including Thunderbird. I still though run Outlook from a Windows VM - just my preference since I got office FREE via a previous contract.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #143


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there.

    "Horses for Courses".

    Outlook works fine for me -- especially if you use it for work as well and need to connect to a few different servers -- work EXCHANGE servers, and two home ISP IMAP accounts - not forgetting easy GMAIL integration too.

    Setting up is an absolute doddle in Outlook 2007/2010. (Hate outlook 2013 though).

    There are LOADS of different email packages - however I will agree that it's not worth buying the EXPENSIVE version of office just to have Outlook included - or even ACCESS -- if you need a database system there are loads of Freebies as well -- although MySQL does a decent job.

    Access when used as a database system has a horrible habit of easily getting broken and it's not at all suited to Multi user operation. It's fine for simple modelling which is what I use it for and then I build a REAL database with MySQL.

    If you run almost ANY Linux system as Host and your Windows as VM's then there are literally 100's of good FREE email programs out there - including Thunderbird. I still though run Outlook from a Windows VM - just my preference since I got office FREE via a previous contract.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Yes, I've been with email from the paid editions of Eudora, through several iterations of "live" mail (until it got so bad I couldn't stand it), beta tested Outlook and it couldn't stand me or my system, and finally settled on Thunderbird.

    Although I don't have more than the one server, I travel a bit and Thunderbird collects my emails for me . . . @hotmail, @live, @gmail, etc. Each email addy is unique in that it serves a particular purpose; what is really great is that my maiden name is so unique that I can use it on all my @email clients.

    As to Access, you're probably right . . . so far, all the "databases" I use have been created by others in Excel, so I'm kinda stuck. I tried to get our Owners Association to use a "real database" program without success, so although I've hung onto the higher priced versions of Office for all these years, Home and Office will most likely suffice for the time being. If I acquire another Office after 2013.

    I keep thinking I'll try a Linux system but so far, haven't found the extra physical space. Once a legal matter I'm working on as researcher is done, though, I should have all the physical space I need.
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  4. #144


    Never been to Heaven......
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    Dual Boot: Back to W7 and Ubuntu 12.04


    Wynona, you can use a thumb drive to boot linux from without touching any of the files or settings on you PC. It would run "Live" From the USB thumb drive. might be worth just checking out

    Geeve
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  5. #145


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by geeve420 View Post
    Wynona, you can use a thumb drive to boot linux from without touching any of the files or settings on you PC. It would run "Live" From the USB thumb drive. might be worth just checking out

    Geeve
    Well, of course, I knew that . . . What was I thinking!?! Sigh . . .

    So, if I boot from the jump drive, can I still get into Windows if and when I want to? Like, say, using one of my Windows programs?
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  6. #146


    Never been to Heaven......
    Posts : 283
    Dual Boot: Back to W7 and Ubuntu 12.04


    Basically you will boot from the jump drive. everything Linux runs from it, just make sure to make a persistent partition on the jump drive and it will keep the changes you make. When you want to use windows, just tell linux to reboot, remove the jump drive and reboot as you normally do

    Geeve
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  7. #147


    India
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Linux Mint 14


    I have tried Linux Mint Cinnamon, Linux Mint KDE and Ubuntu so far. Linux Mint with the KDE desktop is what I like the most. I have found the KDE desktop interface to be most polished looking. So, if you are not sure which distro you want to try, I suggest try either Ubuntu or Linux Mint but with the KDE desktop. I hate Ubuntu's Unity interface and the ugly orange colour.
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  8. #148

    not so easy to re-install


    As the title suggest this is why i think its a major factor,
    under prior versions you only required a set of disks AND an easily found product key, (on the sticker).
    i got my laptop secondhand and thought it was pirate because it had no sticker.

    So OK now found the my OEM (ASUS) code hidden away in the BIOS.
    now i would only like to have 2 partitions AFTER the BIOS recovery, C and D.(in screenshot is that the way the disk is structured?)
    I upgraded via the store, note which you can only do after a specific KB has also been downloaded, cant remember which one, and as this is identified as a new OS, you then get another recovery partition, see screenshot.
    Which one to choose for recovery purposes??,(1,2 or 3) and if i create an 8.1 ISO/USB recovery medium,
    Will it work first time, viewing this forum the odds dont look good for the average user, not quite 123 more like 4567.
    Im quite happy to play around inside the registry and such but this seems too over complicated.

    Roy
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  9. #149


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by hawkman View Post
    As the title suggest this is why i think its a major factor,
    under prior versions you only required a set of disks AND an easily found product key, (on the sticker).
    i got my laptop secondhand and thought it was pirate because it had no sticker.

    So OK now found the my OEM (ASUS) code hidden away in the BIOS.
    now i would only like to have 2 partitions AFTER the BIOS recovery, C and D.(in screenshot is that the way the disk is structured?)
    I upgraded via the store, note which you can only do after a specific KB has also been downloaded, cant remember which one, and as this is identified as a new OS, you then get another recovery partition, see screenshot.
    Which one to choose for recovery purposes??,(1,2 or 3) and if i create an 8.1 ISO/USB recovery medium,
    Will it work first time, viewing this forum the odds dont look good for the average user, not quite 123 more like 4567.
    Im quite happy to play around inside the registry and such but this seems too over complicated.

    Roy
    That's just the UEFI BIOS and the GPT hard drive partitioning scheme. You have your system partition and OS partition. OEMs like to put in a recovery partition among others with their custom .wim file of all their drivers and bloatware so when you need to refresh Windows, you get put back to factory specs.

    You only need two partitions to run Windows properly with UEFI BIOS: system and OS. Everything else is not needed.
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  10. #150


    Hello, hawkman. This is a news thread and not really a help thread. I can see why you may have posted here because of the thread title and recent posts' subject, however you would get better results of help if you started a thread of your own and posted your question here: Installation & Setup - Windows 8 Forums
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