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Why Have Most Windows 8 Users Not Upgraded to Windows 8.1?

  1. #101


    Bay Area
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    Why are you requiring Windows 8 customers move to Windows 8.1 two years after the General Availability?

    Historically, we’ve had a similar support approach related to Windows service packs; when a Windows service pack is released, Microsoft provides customers 24 months of support for the prior service pack or original RTM version. Unlike service packs that are typically just a collection of fixes, Windows 8.1 has new features and enhancements. We designed Windows 8.1 to give customers an ability to deploy this update in a manner that is similar to how customers deploy service packs, therefore we are applying the existing service pack support policy to Windows 8.1.

    Windows 8.1 does not change any hardware requirements compared with Windows 8 or Windows 7 and existing Windows Store apps will work with Windows 8.1. The update has little to no impact on existing desktop apps and there is no direct software cost because enterprise customers with Software Assurance licensing will receive Windows 8.1 as a free update. For organizations running legacy applications that need to be upgraded, there are tools to manage deployment in order to help mitigate cost and impact.
    Windows 8.1 Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ

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  2. #102


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    What about all the updates if someone stayed with plain W8 and not go to 8.1 or 8.1.1 ?
    Well, what about them? Surely they would ask if they had a problem. I was told off by someone for asking the same question recently - some people can't upgrade. Don't look for a problem before it starts I think.
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  3. #103


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    What about all the updates if someone stayed with plain W8 and not go to 8.1 or 8.1.1 ?
    Well, what about them? Surely they would ask if they had a problem. I was told off by someone for asking the same question recently - some people can't upgrade. Don't look for a problem before it starts I think.
    Well, better to be prepared, a wrong update and "poooffff".
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  4. #104


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    Windows 8.1 has changed hardware requirements from Windows 8.

    I currently run Windows 8 x64 on an older desktop. Can't upgrade to 8.1 x64 because 8.1 requires LAHF/SAHF and PrefetchW to upgrade to x64 and my desktop doesn't support these features.

    I can run x86 version but would like to be able to use x64. So I will stay put until support dies or I purchase new hardware.
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  5. #105


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    What about all the updates if someone stayed with plain W8 and not go to 8.1 or 8.1.1 ?
    Well, what about them? Surely they would ask if they had a problem. I was told off by someone for asking the same question recently - some people can't upgrade. Don't look for a problem before it starts I think.
    Well, better to be prepared, a wrong update and "poooffff".
    OK I said the wrong thing. I don't think my ZX81 will run Vista though (he says, desperately grabbing at straws)
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  6. #106


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I installed StartisGone by our fellow member hb860. https://www.eightforums.com/free-deve...artisgone.html
    Me too - good isn't it


    Excellent to say the least. Don't need no stinkin' Start Flag on my Task Bar! There's one in the hot corner already.
    hmmmm.... I've disabled the desktop hot spots and charms, and 8.1x64 has never been better... 98% of the time I never even see the "Metro" ui, and it's wonderful. I've done this courtesy of a start menu program: it's so much better to be able to do everything I want from a single desktop screen than to have to side and vertical scroll simply because so much screen space is wasted! The "start screen" is just an exceedingly ugly desktop, don't'cha know...

    IMO, if you don't use touch then "Metro" will get in your way in a major way.
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  7. #107


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Kerry, I know you did the leaked updates. Do you boot to Desktop? If so, does WinKey/C get you the black Charms bar and time on it? How about hot corners? The right corners get you the white Charms bar? How about the lower left Start Flag and right click on that? Is the Start Flag still in the Task Bar?
    Hipsie, I hate that stupid Charms bar! I'll be doing something really serious and go too far to the right and that stupid thing pops out! Yeah, it's easy enough to get rid of, but when it pops out at least ten times while I'm working on a project, it's distracting, throws my train of thought out of kilter and just POs me in general. Not to mention the time it takes over and over and over and over ad infinitum . . .

    So, the best thing that could happen is to program the Charms bar to only come out of its box when I want it to! Windows Key + C is good.

    Now, if someone tells me I can get rid of the Charms bar that would be icing on the cake and egg on my face!
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  8. #108


    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Me too - good isn't it


    Excellent to say the least. Don't need no stinkin' Start Flag on my Task Bar! There's one in the hot corner already.
    hmmmm.... I've disabled the desktop hot spots and charms, and 8.1x64 has never been better... 98% of the time I never even see the "Metro" ui, and it's wonderful. I've done this courtesy of a start menu program: it's so much better to be able to do everything I want from a single desktop screen than to have to side and vertical scroll simply because so much screen space is wasted! The "start screen" is just an exceedingly ugly desktop, don't'cha know...

    IMO, if you don't use touch then "Metro" will get in your way in a major way.

    I'm so exceedingly happy for you that even my flowers bloomed around me today!

    Why don't you do something useful and teach Wynona how to disable it all.
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  9. #109


    Posts : 1,720
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Kerry, I know you did the leaked updates. Do you boot to Desktop? If so, does WinKey/C get you the black Charms bar and time on it? How about hot corners? The right corners get you the white Charms bar? How about the lower left Start Flag and right click on that? Is the Start Flag still in the Task Bar?
    Hipsie, I hate that stupid Charms bar! I'll be doing something really serious and go too far to the right and that stupid thing pops out! Yeah, it's easy enough to get rid of, but when it pops out at least ten times while I'm working on a project, it's distracting, throws my train of thought out of kilter and just POs me in general. Not to mention the time it takes over and over and over and over ad infinitum . . .

    So, the best thing that could happen is to program the Charms bar to only come out of its box when I want it to! Windows Key + C is good.

    Now, if someone tells me I can get rid of the Charms bar that would be icing on the cake and egg on my face!
    ​The only thing I've been able to accomplish is disabling the Charms Hint and the top right corner... links to follow...

    Charms Bar Hint - Enable or Disable in Windows 8

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  10. #110


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    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Kerry, I know you did the leaked updates. Do you boot to Desktop? If so, does WinKey/C get you the black Charms bar and time on it? How about hot corners? The right corners get you the white Charms bar? How about the lower left Start Flag and right click on that? Is the Start Flag still in the Task Bar?
    Hipsie, I hate that stupid Charms bar! I'll be doing something really serious and go too far to the right and that stupid thing pops out! Yeah, it's easy enough to get rid of, but when it pops out at least ten times while I'm working on a project, it's distracting, throws my train of thought out of kilter and just POs me in general. Not to mention the time it takes over and over and over and over ad infinitum . . .

    So, the best thing that could happen is to program the Charms bar to only come out of its box when I want it to! Windows Key + C is good.

    Now, if someone tells me I can get rid of the Charms bar that would be icing on the cake and egg on my face!
    ​The only thing I've been able to accomplish is disabling the Charms Hint and the top right corner... links to follow...

    Charms Bar Hint - Enable or Disable in Windows 8

    Attachment 40571
    I turned the upper hot corners off too. I also disabled the edge swipe option on my laptop. I hardly ever see it on my desktop, unless I want it. On my laptop it was annoying, as I usually slid my hand across the palm rest without looking to find the touch pad when I need it. That almost always bought up the charms bar because of the accidental edge swipe.
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