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  1. #91


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    Be careful running a script to find your product key, especially if your trying to find your embedded OEM key. The script will read what's stored in the registry, not what's actually stored in your BIOS. The two won't always be the same. Just a heads up.

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  2. #92


    Isn't it the other way around that windows picks up BIOS serial number and stores it in registry as Windows ID ?
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  3. #93


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Isn't it the other way around that windows picks up BIOS serial number and stores it in registry as Windows ID ?
    Yes and no. On a factory OEM install the two will be the same. However, if you use add features to upgrade from Core to Pro, the Pro key is what's stored in the registry. Similarly if you add Media center though add features the Media Center key is what's stored in the registry. The script will read out the Media center key not the embedded key. You can't install with the Media Center key.
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  4. #94


    Well, Aida is one of my "do not leave home without it" applications, that's why I looked at it first. It's licensed 'till 18-Oct-23 and eligible for free updates until then too. Portable so no installation needed.
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  5. #95


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Be careful running a script to find your product key, especially if your trying to find your embedded OEM key. The script will read what's stored in the registry, not what's actually stored in your BIOS. The two won't always be the same. Just a heads up.
    Strange that it worked perfectly for pparks1 (oem install) an myself (downloaded ISO install) when we were one of the first to do a clean install of Windows 8.1. So, instead of telling us what does not work, why don't you tell us "what does work?"
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  6. #96


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Isn't it the other way around that windows picks up BIOS serial number and stores it in registry as Windows ID ?
    Yes and no. On a factory OEM install the two will be the same. However, if you use add features to upgrade from Core to Pro, the Pro key is what's stored in the registry. Similarly if you add Media center though add features the Media Center key is what's stored in the registry. The script will read out the Media center key not the embedded key. You can't install with the Media Center key.
    Aha, don't like or use brand name prebuilt computers anyway.
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  7. #97


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Well, Aida is one of my "do not leave home without it" applications, that's why I looked at it first. It's licensed 'till 18-Oct-23 and eligible for free updates until then too. Portable so no installation needed.
    I'd like to see if alphanumeric would confirm that the AIDA 3rd-party software actually works.
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  8. #98


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    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Be careful running a script to find your product key, especially if your trying to find your embedded OEM key. The script will read what's stored in the registry, not what's actually stored in your BIOS. The two won't always be the same. Just a heads up.
    Strange that it worked perfectly for pparks1 (oem install) an myself (downloaded ISO install) when we were one of the first to do a clean install of Windows 8.1. So, instead of telling us what does not work, why don't you tell us "what does work?"
    It's not that it doesn't work, there are just certain situations where you may get the wrong key. If you have never used Add Features to upgrade it will read out the correct key as the BIOS and registry will have the same key stored in them. RWEverything will read it out of the BIOS.
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  9. #99


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    Before this thread goes way off track let me just say this. These utilities work, they will retrieve the product code that is stored in the registry. All I'm saying is that the key stored in the registry doesn't always match what's stored in the BIOS and you should keep this in mind when using them. If I run them on my laptop odds are that they will retrieve my 8.1 Enterprise key, not my embedded OEM Windows 8.0 key.
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  10. #100


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    It's not that it doesn't work, there are just certain situations where you may get the wrong key. If you have never used Add Features to upgrade it will read out the correct key as the BIOS and registry will have the same key stored in them. RWEverything will read it out of the BIOS.
    Just give me an example of what does work please?

    Everything will read it out of the BIOS.
    An 8.1 clean install does not work that way. It requires one to use a generic key first and then use the embedded product key to activate the product. So, please give me an example of what would work if I did the generic install and then attempted to retrieve my key "after the fact" to activate the installation. In this specific case, you claim the showkey.vbs script will not work. Now, since I haven't tried it in that order (eg, extracting the key after the generic install), I can't honestly say for sure but your claim of caution should be followed by a suggested alternative, so I am willing to learn from your caution. Now, please tell us what works because that is the most important part that you left out of your advisory.
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