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10 stupid things 'experts' try to tell you about Microsoft

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    10 stupid things 'experts' try to tell you about Microsoft


    In Silicon Valley (and in media satellites that take the NoCal mindset to New York and beyond), everyone has an iPhone, a MacBook Pro, and a Gmail account. Microsoft products and services might as well be from Mars. So be skeptical when you read analyses or predictions of what's coming next from Redmond.
    Read more at: 10 amazingly stupid things the 'experts' will try to tell you about Microsoft | ZDNet

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    Well worth reading through the ten points.
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    I think much of it is more wishful thinking on the part of the author, than actual fact. We already know windows Phone is going away, their restructure plan is a who knows no-man's land. I believe also, that the public's perception of Microsoft is weak, and Microsoft is trying anything and everything to fit into the new-age consumer world.

    What they have failed to grasp, is the art of actually listening, they say they listen, but yet they do not hear. They are still playing the roll of telling everyone what is best for them. They fail to understand, that their new consumer's now, are people and not a corporate board.

    What is sadder yet, the things that are holding them together were innovations from two decades ago, everything they do today is an imitation of everyone else. They are no longer innovator's, not even Window's 8 is a true inspiration.
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    Ya, I agree to a certain extent, but they are in a tough position of having to try to fix what is not broken to continue making money.

    In a perfect world, everyone runs Windows 7 and nothing else is ever needed. (Opinion only, of course!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    I think much of it is more wishful thinking on the part of the author, than actual fact. We already know windows Phone is going away, their restructure plan is a who knows no-man's land. I believe also, that the public's perception of Microsoft is weak, and Microsoft is trying anything and everything to fit into the new-age consumer world.

    What they have failed to grasp, is the art of actually listening, they say they listen, but yet they do not hear. They are still playing the roll of telling everyone what is best for them. They fail to understand, that their new consumer's now, are people and not a corporate board.

    What is sadder yet, the things that are holding them together were innovations from two decades ago, everything they do today is an imitation of everyone else. They are no longer innovator's, not even Window's 8 is a true inspiration.
    Very well put. This is probably the main reason I have chimed in as much as I have on these forums. I hold the hope that someone, maybe multiple someone's over in Redmond are listening and maybe even hearing some of what I have said. To my mind, so much of their current problems could have been so easily avoided, had they just been smarter about how they implemented some of these changes.

    Replacing the old way, with an entirely new way that is not entirely logical and is actually highly confusing to many long time computer users, is a very poor tactic when you are releasing a new software version. You are then essentially forcing your user base to re-learn how to use their computers which is just not a successful approach to take, as has been undeniably observed.

    Instead, a far better tact would involve including the old methods along with the new methods, and giving the end user the power of choice about how they intend to use what is given. Adopting this simple philosophy could have completely changed the way that initial taste of Windows 8 was on the palette of much of Microsoft's consumer base. First impressions are extremely important after all, as is the hype that is bound to follow with them...

    Now what we see in subsequent releases, is a company basically backtracking to where they should have started, which in turn is pissing off an entirely different subset of their user base, those who had already taken the plunge into learning the new and abandoning the old. Oh Jeez, what are we to do? At this point, 'learn from it and move on' is about the best that can be accomplished. But seriously!! Please learn from it.

    That's it from me for today..
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    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    I think much of it is more wishful thinking on the part of the author, than actual fact. We already know windows Phone is going away, their restructure plan is a who knows no-man's land.



    Where, whom, and what source did you confirm that bologna of WP is going away? Please quit spreading FUD.
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    If I can add some stuff...

    Microsoft are so prevalent, they're omniscient. That package in the mail you ordered from the Amazon? Bet you anything Windows Xp/7 and Windows Mobile had a huge part in delivering and tracking it. That DVD you rented from that kiosk? Probably Windows Xp Embedded. That self checkout machine you used to avoid human contact? Windows Xp/7 Embedded.

    They're not going away for a LOOONG time.

    Also, I see this argument ALL the time from Linux users, that Windows is inherently flawed when it comes to security due to whatever. Yeah, the NT 6 kernel would like to have a nice fireside chat at how false that is. A lot the flaws security wise these days on Windows is third party software, Flash player is a GREAT example of that as well as google chrome as well as Adobe Photoshop as well as itunes. "Oh, but all of that third party software runs on Windows and that's why it's so bad for security!" Uh hu....
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    Thank you Coke for putting some of the truth back into the total BS being put out in this thread. Sorry boys and girls, albeit Microsoft isn't going any where any time soon with their ready cash (true not as much as Apple) and with their annual intake of capital Microsoft should still be around for at least a couple more months oh at least until this coming Christmas. . .Hopefully.
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    " What they have failed to grasp, is the art of actually listening, they say they listen, but yet they do not hear. They are still playing the roll of telling everyone what is best for them. They fail to understand, that their new consumer's now, are people and not a corporate board."

    No sarcasm or other intended, but, for my curiosity, I would be grateful if someone could point me to any specific threads on the web, as to suggestions as to what should be included in Windows 8. I have been browsing since I firt read this thread, and cannot find anything specific. I do know that MVPs and other potential users were involved, but cannot track down anything of significance in the "consumers" category. Partners were given ample time to make suggestions, whether or not those suggestions were followed, we mortals will never know.

    "What is sadder yet, the things that are holding them together were innovations from two decades ago, everything they do today is an imitation of everyone else. They are no longer innovator's, not even Window's 8 is a true inspiration."

    A little contradiction of remarks in this thread, , I think. Windows 8 was , according to more than one post, too much of a change. (innovative). With a similar circumstance which occurred with the release of Vista, it does seem that the average user is not prepared to accept radical change. I can't argue with that - everyone to their own taste.

    But, this is the most prolific Windows 8 site on the Web. I still, as I remarked in another thread, find it difficult to comprehend why, on such a site, there appears to be so much dislike of Microsoft and its products. I have to presume that all who post Windows 8 intelligence here are actually using it (?). Windows 7 is acknowledged by the majority, as being a fine OS. No one was forced to use Windows 8, so why not stay with Windows 7. I certainly take that approach with updates to third party software, including the associated updates.
    Leaving aside the boring, and repetitious comments on the Modern GUI, what is it the users here are finding prohibitively wrong with Windows 8, as compared with previous "after the event" comments on Windows 7 and, even earlier, XP. They were numerous.
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    Dave, it's probably when all the beta testers were screaming so loud that the internet almost collapsed, about how the Start screen should not be on desktop machines.

    You asked about other things not liked in 8: The nonsense of not even being able to open apps like calculator or the like without signing in to MS account, the UEFI stuff, M$'s visions of making you pay through all acquired software through the store, placing things in different places unnecessarily "just because" and many changes were unintuitive, Flash being in Windows Update....a few other reasons but that sums up most of it.

    IMHO, that Start screen has no place on a desktop. It should not even be included with the OS. It should be something M$ offers to download and install, if you want to look at it to check out and maybe use.

    To contrast, ever since I got my hands on an early beta of 7, I have nothing but praise for it until this day. Heck, I even liked Vista from the beginnings and knew that my hardware being old was a fault of it not running so well and not MS fault.
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