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Microsoft Designer Explains the Reasons for Bringing Metro

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    MS = BS

    This is the biggest crock of bull I have ever heard. Bottom line !! The whole OS was designed to generate revenues, the App store, Automatic Bing searching to track your moves, to sell advertising, cloud rental storage space. There long term goal is to remove the desktop, so everything must be acquired through them.

    And if you don't believe me, view this same page in IE Desktop mode and again in IE Metro mode, with Metro you will see advertising splattered all over these pages, as with desktop you don't. I am sick of being exploited every where I go. I can't get away from advertisers no matter where I go;
    Welcome To The Age of Propaganda.....

    Microsoft's new motto "Let's screw them all".....
    Last edited by justmetoday; 19 Feb 2014 at 08:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    As he explained, multiple desktops has been a feature that power users have been requesting for over a decade, and it is a feature that is available in GNU/Linux, OSX, and "even OS/2 Warp has it. But Windows doesn't."
    More proof that M$ does not listen to it users.
    Which from that article, was because casual users got too confused for it to be added. It's just like with Media Center, only three people used it ever, so why keep a feature very few niche people use?
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    the casual users would never have migrated to their land of milk and honey, he said.
    Mr. Pwnie really is dashing through the skies with his head in the clouds.

    Land of milk and honey. .. What a strange statement. Was the metro UI the land of salvation we were all looking for? Were we struggling to free ourselves from the oppressive enslavement of Windows 7?

    I still think the goal was advertising. Force people to the Metro UI, collect numbers on how many visits to the Metro UI, sell advertising.
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    Cue the, "MS doesn't ever listen to users and shoves whatever down your throat!"

    I just love how on sites like these, the ONLY users Microsoft EVER has had are the people on tech forum sites, people that know what kernels, distros, DISM and the like mean and what they are. Yeah. That's a mountain away from the 90% of everyone else that uses Windows. Not everyone's considered a "power" user, and not every "casual" user can ever be considered the opposite. You have to design a UI with a tailored experience versus a one size fits all, much like what Windows 7 is. It's funny to read how people will say "metro is one size fit all!" without realizing that the Windows 7 style is much in fact, one size fits all. It's a UI design that DOES NOT scale on screen size or resolution nor on device. Regardless of that 23 inch 1600x900 monitor you have, that start menu is only going to show 10 things by default UNLESS you manually change that. Even better, my God, how is it that no one even realizes that Windows 7 was designed in part for touch?! Seriously right now, Windows 8 wasn't even by far the first! Look at Windows vista to 7 and you should hopefully notice window control buttons that are more than large enough to click on with a mouse, even a Taskbar that could have easily been not as large. Why? TOUCH INPUT!!


    The only times Microsoft doesn't "shove things down people's throats" are obviously when things are well liked and received. When it's not, you're being forced against your will and you will in fact die if you don't put up with it.

    But either way, they did not do themselves a favor by deliberating making the Start Screen a separate content consumption environment for sure. That's ultimately a major reason for hesitation against it is because you switch into two separation environments, power user on the Desktop and casual user on Start with no obvious way to accessing files. It's not more along the lines of making the Start Screen like a Backstage view as in Office, where you can easily find and access your Pictures and Music folders in File Explorer, or This PC, or other Desktop related items. Obviously, most power users disregard the Start Screen and use a start menu replacement usually much akin to Windows xp's horrid fly-out menu design; so a whole UI is being ignored and we're now at square one. Then there's the casual user that is completely dumbfounded at this all and has no idea what they're doing (but for some reason can easily go on the internet and complain about it). For a new user that for example, hasn't had a PC in two years, this whole thing is bloody confusing. There isn't even a decent way for anyone to ACTUALLY learn how to use it before hand. Instead of having the Start Screen become a nice new environment, it's a thorn in the side and will be bad mouthed straight to hell.

    That's a problem.
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    Cue the, "MS doesn't ever listen to users and shoves whatever down your throat!"
    That is pretty much what Jacob Miller said. So you may as well direct your tantrum at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cue the, "MS doesn't ever listen to users and shoves whatever down your throat!"
    That is pretty much what Jacob Miller said. So you may as well direct your tantrum at him.
    Not really. I'll keep directing my tantrum that those who have tantrums over very little.
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    You appear to be the person ( or online persona) who has the tantrums. Not exactly a role model.

    Cue the, "MS doesn't ever listen to users and shoves whatever down your throat!"
    That is pretty much what Jacob Miller said. So you may as well direct your tantrum at him.
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    It is an interesting piece. Has it been confirmed?

    Might be an elaborate hoax.

    Might be the guy is for real and spoke out of turn.

    It might also be a very clever PR piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You appear to be the person ( or online persona) who has the tantrums. Not exactly a role model.

    Cue the, "MS doesn't ever listen to users and shoves whatever down your throat!"
    That is pretty much what Jacob Miller said. So you may as well direct your tantrum at him.
    "Put a toad in a vat of boiling water and it'll jump out. Put a toad in a vat on cool water and turn the heat up, it won't jump out."

    Or my favorite...

    "What does MS think they're doing?! They go and dumb down Windows and force us to use this abhorrent mess and even worse, slap us in the face with this stupid Start button that only goes back to the start screen that no one uses or wants to even care for!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    "What does MS think they're doing?! They go and dumb down Windows and force us to use this abhorrent mess and even worse, slap us in the face with this stupid Start button that only goes back to the start screen that no one uses or wants to even care for!"
    Sounds about right....
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