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    Why do Windows 8 enthusiasts hate prior versions?


    What I find interesting about avid Windows 8 enthusiasts is that they describe the desktop interface, with almost an utter disgust. I mean they act like Windows 7 and prior versions should be banished from the face of the earth. If they hated these prior versions so much, why did they even use them?

    I think Windows 8 is clumsy to use unless you have a touch screen, hence the usefulness of the desktop interface.

    I also believe Windows 8 biggest problem is still it's lack of useful apps. I saw the current MS offering for the Surface tablet (only $449 US, RT I presume), came with Office tools, and 200GB of cloud storage, BUT, I still thought to myself I want an iPad because it will have apps I can really use and with built in 3/4G I can use it almost anywhere.

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  2. #32


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    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    What I find interesting about avid Windows 8 enthusiasts is that they describe the desktop interface, with almost an utter disgust. I mean they act like Windows 7 and prior versions should be banished from the face of the earth. If they hated these prior versions so much, why did they even use them?

    I think Windows 8 is clumsy to use unless you have a touch screen, hence the usefulness of the desktop interface.

    I also believe Windows 8 biggest problem is still it's lack of useful apps. I saw the current MS offering for the Surface tablet (only $449 US, RT I presume), came with Office tools, and 200GB of cloud storage, BUT, I still thought to myself I want an iPad because it will have apps I can really use and with built in 3/4G I can use it almost anywhere.


    Maybe they hate prior versions because they want that flexibility and backwards compatibility. They want the desktop and MUI. They want to touch their 8 or 10 inch tablets that run FULL Windows if they wanted. They want to do more than one thing at a time. Maybe this is why they have no love for an os stuck in the 2010's with poor support for touch and want more usability.

    They want this all for less than $500. Factor that in with what I like to do and you can see why I don't have any use for an ipad. I have mobile hotspot on my phone and I don't have to pay $10+/mo. for 3/4G data meaning I saved $120/yr.

    I've posted this before so let me direct you straight to the Apple store. This is definitely not what you want or need.

    By all means... go ahead and factor out a Windows 8x tablet.











    While you're at it, take a look at the post from a recent hardcore Android user that just got a 1520, coupled with this little excerpt from the recent Windows Phone 8.1 SDK leak, and you just have to wonder why anyone would want to have all apps from one ecosystem working across phone, tablet, and pc.

    Upcoming Windows Universal Store Apps Detailed | WMPoweruser
    Upcoming Windows Universal Store Apps Detailed

    February 12, 2014 Pradeep 8 Comments

    Yesterday, we reported that Universal apps are coming with Windows Phone 8.1 that will allow developers to target the apps both for tablets and mobile devices. A leaked slide of Windows Phone blue details the Universal Store apps.
    Developers will be able to create one Visual Studio ‘Shared Solution template for their apps. You can have two Visual Studio UI projects for your single code base, one for Windows Phone UI and another for Windows UI. You can have two different AppX packages to submit to Store targeting Windows Phone and Windows. Microsoft also claims that developers can have shared dev and test tooling for both the platforms.
    I’m sure developers will be excited to hear this news! If you are a developer, share your thoughts with us in the comments section below. Find the slide about converged UI controls after the break.
    via: RomanL

    I can't believe they took out the old start menu! What am I going to do now on my tablet?
    Last edited by EMINENT; 13 Feb 2014 at 05:00.
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  3. #33


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    Posts : 25
    Windows 8.1 64 bit (updt)

    Poor Microsoft


    They can never satisfy all the users all the time.
    (NOBODY can)

    In my humble opinion, the only mistake with Win 8 was that it tried to do 'all in 1'.

    What I think should have worked better, was Win. 8 with Metro (Modern UI) for those with touchscreens and mobiles, AND "Win. 9" for those with desktop/office equipment only.

    I personally like Win 8.1 modified with Classic Shell, and never use the modern UI. But my needs are different to most other people.

    We shall see what the future holds.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 3
    windows 8 64bit


    Don't get me wrong opinions are like attitudes every has one My problem is people will not take the time to look at what's in front of them let alone even try to see what's there. She can get a windows laptop running windows 8 and never ever use a Metro app. Add 2 seconds to show her the Charm to power on and off and you have a happy camper. But no, Win Users are like engineers to service techs we hate to see them coming they know it all then freeze at the first issue they're not ready to address. Enough said about the people who just regurgitate what they read or here on the net. The truth is out there just don't expect it to find you on the internet. You have to do your home work and users don't like work period when they can repeat what someone told them.

    As for those who think the Metro interface is dead not so much, dream on it is too deeply embedded into the OS. You're going to get boot to Desktop on non touch systems and some form of of a Start Menu but that's about all. Win 8 upgrades and Win 9 are going to be Touch Centric a chicken can't walk on one leg and MS is not going hobble the OS further with foolish suggestions to go back to the Desktop Interface
    What's funny is this is most impressive improvement in the OS since XP and people are too busy hating on Metro apps to recognize it. MS could have mitigated a lot of this with simply allowing Metro apps to be sized on desktop units, who wants a 32 inch Twitter app. That was dumb and rather they address it properly or not it's still just stupid. Hey what do you expect we're talking MS it always takes them 3 times to get it right peace bro just and opinion
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  5. #35


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    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    What I find interesting about avid Windows 8 enthusiasts is that they describe the desktop interface, with almost an utter disgust. I mean they act like Windows 7 and prior versions should be banished from the face of the earth. If they hated these prior versions so much, why did they even use them?

    I think Windows 8 is clumsy to use unless you have a touch screen, hence the usefulness of the desktop interface.

    I also believe Windows 8 biggest problem is still it's lack of useful apps. I saw the current MS offering for the Surface tablet (only $449 US, RT I presume), came with Office tools, and 200GB of cloud storage, BUT, I still thought to myself I want an iPad because it will have apps I can really use and with built in 3/4G I can use it almost anywhere.
    Well the part about 200 GB of free storage is false. I have the Lumia 2520 and LTE on ATT the last I checked it was faster than 3/4G I purchased mine at the Microsoft Store without a contract. But to be fair I have issue with the lack of a couple of apps, the micro html connection and the usb 3 dongle required. The Bing apps are simply outstanding but there's no GPS navigation App even though there's GPS sensor built into the device. Nokia has Here Drive + but it was not ported to the 2520. Here Maps is and it's a beautiful app but it's not a GPS Navigation app period for RT. There is also no meaning zero Battery application apps available period it's just plain insulting why? I was always told you work to accentuate your strength and minimize your weaknesses. Either they're just stupid or they didn't have time neither is acceptable BTW there's a price difference depending on the storage I added 64 GB for 46 bucks I believe I can hang with you on storage, speed and general applications and raise you a few just my opinion bro peace
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  6. #36


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Are people still crying over useless start menu?
    Nope people are just not buying Windows 8.x without it.
    Never a truer word was spoken and now we are apparently having to wait until Windows 9 for the return of a meaningful start menu has firmly put the nail in the coffin of Windows 8/8.1 and proves Microsoft has just not listened hard enough to those that matter and is now dragging it's feet on the issue.

    As a desktop user I have no problem with Metro (it just gets ignored) but I do have a problem with the half assed start menu we have got at the moment and so simple to fix in the release of 8.1.1 you would think. Stubborness and stupidity will eventually kill Microsoft if the colour blind idiots who are allowed choose their colour schemes don't do it first.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy1one View Post
    Well the part about 200 GB of free storage is false.

    How is that false about the 200gb? I have it and i'm using it right now. Only for Surface 2 or Pro 2 purchasers. As a matter of fact, I have 50gb just in music that I have at my disposal at any time I want to stream my Skymusic app on my phone or Xbox Music.
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  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy1one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    What I find interesting about avid Windows 8 enthusiasts is that they describe the desktop interface, with almost an utter disgust. I mean they act like Windows 7 and prior versions should be banished from the face of the earth. If they hated these prior versions so much, why did they even use them?

    I think Windows 8 is clumsy to use unless you have a touch screen, hence the usefulness of the desktop interface.

    I also believe Windows 8 biggest problem is still it's lack of useful apps. I saw the current MS offering for the Surface tablet (only $449 US, RT I presume), came with Office tools, and 200GB of cloud storage, BUT, I still thought to myself I want an iPad because it will have apps I can really use and with built in 3/4G I can use it almost anywhere.
    Well the part about 200 GB of free storage is false. I have the Lumia 2520 and LTE on ATT the last I checked it was faster than 3/4G I purchased mine at the Microsoft Store without a contract. But to be fair I have issue with the lack of a couple of apps, the micro html connection and the usb 3 dongle required. The Bing apps are simply outstanding but there's no GPS navigation App even though there's GPS sensor built into the device. Nokia has Here Drive + but it was not ported to the 2520. Here Maps is and it's a beautiful app but it's not a GPS Navigation app period for RT. There is also no meaning zero Battery application apps available period it's just plain insulting why? I was always told you work to accentuate your strength and minimize your weaknesses. Either they're just stupid or they didn't have time neither is acceptable BTW there's a price difference depending on the storage I added 64 GB for 46 bucks I believe I can hang with you on storage, speed and general applications and raise you a few just my opinion bro peace
    The 200gigs of Cloud storage was part of the offering, it was a TV add, maybe I misunderstood it, it was the only reason I brought it up.

    I thought LTE was only in limited places, that is why the 3G and 4G were appealing to me, plus I am not crazy about piggy backing onto my phone, unless I misunderstand that also. My roomies are iPhone addicts, they are always on me to get an iPhone, I have to admit they are a great product.

    I don't hate Windows 8, but listening to some of the Win 8 people, they act like I should be ashamed because I like my Windows 7, which I am not. I think Windows 7 is an excellent product. I almost don't even want a windows 8 system, because they (pro win8er's) are so hateful towards win7, or at least so it seems.
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  9. #39


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    There are a few who need others to justify their choices. Some are offended by win7 users.

    Sad, but there is nothing you can do to help them, only a shrink could do that.

    I don't hate Windows 8, but listening to some of the Win 8 people, they act like I should be ashamed because I like my Windows 7, which I am not. I think Windows 7 is an excellent product. I almost don't even want a windows 8 system, because they (pro win8er's) are so hateful towards win7, or at least so it seems.
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  10. #40


    Somewhere in USA
    Posts : 233
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy1one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by justmetoday View Post
    What I find interesting about avid Windows 8 enthusiasts is that they describe the desktop interface, with almost an utter disgust. I mean they act like Windows 7 and prior versions should be banished from the face of the earth. If they hated these prior versions so much, why did they even use them?

    I think Windows 8 is clumsy to use unless you have a touch screen, hence the usefulness of the desktop interface.

    I also believe Windows 8 biggest problem is still it's lack of useful apps. I saw the current MS offering for the Surface tablet (only $449 US, RT I presume), came with Office tools, and 200GB of cloud storage, BUT, I still thought to myself I want an iPad because it will have apps I can really use and with built in 3/4G I can use it almost anywhere.
    Well the part about 200 GB of free storage is false. I have the Lumia 2520 and LTE on ATT the last I checked it was faster than 3/4G I purchased mine at the Microsoft Store without a contract. But to be fair I have issue with the lack of a couple of apps, the micro html connection and the usb 3 dongle required. The Bing apps are simply outstanding but there's no GPS navigation App even though there's GPS sensor built into the device. Nokia has Here Drive + but it was not ported to the 2520. Here Maps is and it's a beautiful app but it's not a GPS Navigation app period for RT. There is also no meaning zero Battery application apps available period it's just plain insulting why? I was always told you work to accentuate your strength and minimize your weaknesses. Either they're just stupid or they didn't have time neither is acceptable BTW there's a price difference depending on the storage I added 64 GB for 46 bucks I believe I can hang with you on storage, speed and general applications and raise you a few just my opinion bro peace
    The 200gigs of Cloud storage was part of the offering, it was a TV add, maybe I misunderstood it, it was the only reason I brought it up.

    I thought LTE was only in limited places, that is why the 3G and 4G were appealing to me, plus I am not crazy about piggy backing onto my phone, unless I misunderstand that also. My roomies are iPhone addicts, they are always on me to get an iPhone, I have to admit they are a great product.

    I don't hate Windows 8, but listening to some of the Win 8 people, they act like I should be ashamed because I like my Windows 7, which I am not. I think Windows 7 is an excellent product. I almost don't even want a windows 8 system, because they (pro win8er's) are so hateful towards win7, or at least so it seems.
    Lol! It's actually the other way around. Go into any number of threads and read from any number of h8ters constantly complaining about change.

    So, no. No one cares you like 7. This is an 8 board. Correct? W7 IS a great product. It's just not the product MS needs right now. They're trying to promote a progressive step towards convergence. Going against that puts that vision and MS a step back. But to bash 8 because it has added features is worse. No one is angry that you're stuck on 7. You're mistaking their confusion of why you'd want to be with your own reserve.
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