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Windows 8.1 Update 1 leaked

  1. #71


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    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    I don't understand if they're going to eventually allow windowed mode for apps, why it's taking so long. Stardock made this possible a year ago. I tried it out on my Surface Pro, but uninstalled it because it was awkward and I didn't seem to like the use or need of it. Probably because I hardly used desktop on Surface. It's much nicer to stay in MUI on a tablet.

    Granted, the taskbar wasn't integrated to show while mousing, but it wouldn't have made it any better. On desktop though, it'd be alright.

    I'm beginning to imagine what it'd be like if they made the taskbar on top, like a status bar on a phone. I already use my taskbar at the top on the desktop. Then, if they moved the charms bar to the bottom, it could replace the soon-to-be on screen buttons at the bottom on Windows Phone.

    I could see this being super awesome. And how they could finally get RT scaled to phone. The only thing I can't make out is what the start screen or apps screen would look like since one swipes horizontally for apps and the other vertical.
    That's an argument with the window management paradigm that's been in Windows since forever. Windowed apps that overlap each other just obviously doesn't feel "right" on a tablet but "does" on a desktop, although overlapping windows is in all honestly not the best nor efficient way to view AND use open windows.

    I need to finish up some concept UI designs I have to progress Windows not onto the Desktop, but onwards toward glory. Really, all that matters on the Desktop side of things is the power of Win32 code and serious multitasking. That's it. Shoving WinRT code onto this UI paradigm that dates back several decades isn't the way to progress a platform that is meant to target tablets (which didn't exist in the early GUI days), laptops, and desktops. There needs to be a new window management paradigm that can balance out old and new together very nicely, easily, and effectively. It's possible, but as I see it, the Desktop UI of it's setup isn't the way to go...

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  2. #72


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    This is amazing for phone. Halfway in you can see the right swipe similar to a taskbar.

    I'd be in heaven if this was what we got in 8.1.

    The only thing missing would be syncing with Onedrive for all app/game data, start screen, and settings.

    Of course, we'll be getting a quarter of anything remotely as cool as that.


    Last edited by Brink; 06 Feb 2014 at 23:29. Reason: embedded video
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  3. #73


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    Windows 10


    Microsoft.windows.8.1.2014.update.x86.only.msu.9600.16610.winblue_s14.140201-1007-wzt

    microsoft.windows.8.1.2014.update.x64.only.msu.9600.16610.winblue_s14.140201-1007-wzt

    Windows 8.1 Update 1 to Require All Official RTM Rollups ? Report
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  4. #74


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    Quote Originally Posted by genet View Post
    Microsoft.windows.8.1.2014.update.x86.only.msu.9600.16610.winblue_s14.140201-1007-wzt

    microsoft.windows.8.1.2014.update.x64.only.msu.9600.16610.winblue_s14.140201-1007-wzt

    Windows 8.1 Update 1 to Require All Official RTM Rollups ? Report
    Ah so just having (installed) the 8.1 RTM build won't cut it. You'll have to patch up to the GA build to apply update 1. That's how I read it any way. Anybody with an 8.0 OEM install that needs to reinstall will have to update to 8.1 (though the store), patch to the GA build, and then update again to 8.1.1.
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  5. #75


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    edit: Windows 8.1 Update 1 RTM Escrow Leaked, Now Available for Download

    edit: This is not RTM version.

    MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.2014.UPDATE.X86.ONLY.MSU.9600.16610.WINBLUE_S14.140201-1007-WZT

    RELEASE DATE: 06/02/2014
    BUILD: 6.3.9600.16610.WINBLUE_S14.140201-1007
    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919442-x86.msu
    SIZE: 4,769,616 byte
    SHA1: ACA709165CB071A5A111F9915BBF2A696B8D3989
    MD5: 4E4C25FE3FDB735B9D5FA7D764B57D68
    CRC: 3409F3B2

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919355-x86.msu
    SIZE: 263,777,520 byte
    SHA1: 03DF6CDA755932359C5A8F624892A2381A49DF05
    MD5: E0D563C71FFA62BD91BD836419CBA227
    CRC: 6D0146C1

    MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.2014.UPDATE.X64.ONLY.MSU.9600.16610.WINBLUE_S14.140201-1007-WZT

    RELEASE DATE: 06/02/2014
    BUILD: 6.3.9600.16610.WINBLUE_S14.140201-1007
    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919442-x64.msu
    SIZE: 10,521,184 byte
    SHA1: BDAE9A24C9DB61B3E5847C016E5A8BE55205139C
    MD5: 9DEEFE76B12E5821540737AAEF43BFAD
    CRC: 9ABAEE71

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919355-x64.msu
    SIZE: 587,295,343 byte
    SHA1: AFE76E2F50BC68D59C5C3226F487E2BE7FAC0490
    MD5: 72CEE6131578015236DB90342E5429B1
    CRC: DBE50C23

    Manual:
    Installing the Windows 8.1 Update 2014 MSU to a your local Windows 8.1 RTM or Windows Server 2012 R2 RTM.

    1. Install Windows 8.1 RTM or Windows Server 2012 R2 RTM any version!
    2. Install one or more Windows 8.1 RTM languages.
    3. Install all of the previously-released updates for Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2 .
    This includes:
    • Rollup A (KB2883200)
    • Rollup B (KB2884846)
    • November Rollup (KB2887595)
    • December Rollup (KB2903939)
    • January Rollup (KB2911106)

    Restart your PC!

    4. Install Windows8.1-KB2919442-<architecture>.msu update, where <architecture> is x86, x64, by double-clicking on the file.
    This is required to install before you install the Windows 8.1 Update 2014 MSU update!
    Restart your PC!. You must restart the PC to complete any pending update actions.

    5. Install the Windows 8.1 Update MSU file, Windows8.1-KB2919355-<architecture>.msu (where <architecture> is x86, x64) to the by double-clicking on the file.
    The update will be applied for all available languages installed in the Windows 8.1.
    Restart your PC. You must restart the PC to complete any pending update actions.

    Fine!

    07|02|2014
    -=W.Z.T=-
    Last edited by genet; 07 Feb 2014 at 11:44.
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  6. #76


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    I don't understand if they're going to eventually allow windowed mode for apps, why it's taking so long. Stardock made this possible a year ago. I tried it out on my Surface Pro, but uninstalled it because it was awkward and I didn't seem to like the use or need of it. Probably because I hardly used desktop on Surface. It's much nicer to stay in MUI on a tablet.

    Granted, the taskbar wasn't integrated to show while mousing, but it wouldn't have made it any better. On desktop though, it'd be alright.

    I'm beginning to imagine what it'd be like if they made the taskbar on top, like a status bar on a phone. I already use my taskbar at the top on the desktop. Then, if they moved the charms bar to the bottom, it could replace the soon-to-be on screen buttons at the bottom on Windows Phone.

    I could see this being super awesome. And how they could finally get RT scaled to phone. The only thing I can't make out is what the start screen or apps screen would look like since one swipes horizontally for apps and the other vertical.
    That's an argument with the window management paradigm that's been in Windows since forever. Windowed apps that overlap each other just obviously doesn't feel "right" on a tablet but "does" on a desktop, although overlapping windows is in all honestly not the best nor efficient way to view AND use open windows.

    I need to finish up some concept UI designs I have to progress Windows not onto the Desktop, but onwards toward glory. Really, all that matters on the Desktop side of things is the power of Win32 code and serious multitasking. That's it. Shoving WinRT code onto this UI paradigm that dates back several decades isn't the way to progress a platform that is meant to target tablets (which didn't exist in the early GUI days), laptops, and desktops. There needs to be a new window management paradigm that can balance out old and new together very nicely, easily, and effectively. It's possible, but as I see it, the Desktop UI of it's setup isn't the way to go...
    Yes windows overlapping is not the way to go, split screen is way more efficient but problem lays in desktop apps that do not sport ribbon interface. If you take some app like Photoshop you will see that it spans tools and tabs vertically both left and right which significantly kills screen estate in split screen.
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  7. #77


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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Yes windows overlapping is not the way to go, split screen is way more efficient but problem lays in desktop apps that do not sport ribbon interface. If you take some app like Photoshop you will see that it spans tools and tabs vertically both left and right which significantly kills screen estate in split screen.
    ... and therefore you sometimes have to overlap to see what you need, when on a small screen.

    I would argue that overlapping is actually more efficient use of limited space, it just doesn't look very nice.
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  8. #78


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Now that's its out in the wild I wonder what the odds are of it showing up on TechNet earlier than planned?
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  9. #79


    I'm not at all certain it will be on TechNet/MSDN at all. It is supposedly an update. I know they have previously released OSs with Sps, but I don't know how they will handle this one. The leak is certainly a full installable OS? So will we have a Windows 8.1a or what?

    If the leak referred to here is the only one, so far, it is already a couple of builds or so out of date-
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  10. #80


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    There is 8.0 and 8.1 currently on TechNet/MSDN. The Enterprise builds were updated to the GA release too and include the Rollups. I really hope they put up a full 8.1.1 ISO that is the full OS with the update(s) baked in. When I do a clean install I want to do it all in one shot, I'm sure IT Pro's would want to do it that way too. Time will tell I guess.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 08 Feb 2014 at 13:57.
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